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Old 07-29-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Why does it matter so much to people if they prefer big city to rural? My sister I grew up in metro-NYC, Basically a suburb. My sister has lived in NYC and loves it. I basically moved away to what one might call a suburb but not of a big city. I am not a fan of big crowds. It does not bother her. I do miss the food choices though. To each his own.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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I've spent years living in rural America....and in-between and in the burbs.

What often goes unsaid here (and elsewhere) is that many of these rural areas are/were used and abused and all is not as it seems. It looks pretty from the road until you discover that the mines ruined the water and the fishing.....and that the other side of that ridgeline looks like an Atomic Bomb hit it.

Lots of nice places where you can find incredibly high levels of arsenic and other poisons in the soil from older ag use (Florida as one example).

All of the growth and economic success of the USA came with a cost...both here and in the ROW (rest of world)...

Like most naive Americans I thought escaping to the boonies would be pure living. It was anything but. Some places have dumped millions of gallons of chicken poo in their swamps and waterways, others the same with coal ash....

It's really hard to find this "rural" America that so many talk about....that does not have either terrible weather (cotton country) or the legacy of environmental disaster.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:24 PM
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I've spent years living in rural America....and in-between and in the burbs.

What often goes unsaid here (and elsewhere) is that many of these rural areas are/were used and abused and all is not as it seems. It looks pretty from the road until you discover that the mines ruined the water and the fishing.....and that the other side of that ridgeline looks like an Atomic Bomb hit it.

Lots of nice places where you can find incredibly high levels of arsenic and other poisons in the soil from older ag use (Florida as one example).

All of the growth and economic success of the USA came with a cost...both here and in the ROW (rest of world)...

Like most naive Americans I thought escaping to the boonies would be pure living. It was anything but. Some places have dumped millions of gallons of chicken poo in their swamps and waterways, others the same with coal ash....

It's really hard to find this "rural" America that so many talk about....that does not have either terrible weather (cotton country) or the legacy of environmental disaster.
I would sympathize with rural areas except they vote for that toxicity. They vote for candidates that support it. They vote for increased pollution (Trump's E.P.A. has substantially increased pesticide use and also made it so the communities that are impacted cannot appeal their use). Those rural areas depend on my tax money for their existence then complain when the people they elected poison their water and soil. Am I supposed to pay to fix that for them too?
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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I agree that alot of people = high rent. However if alot of people want to move to a city, you might want to ask yourself why this is. Why do so many people want to move to Seattle, Denver, and Portland? Why aren't Republican bastions like Tulsa and Oklahoma City attracting as many people?

And something else. Ethnic districts have been around in big cities and small cities for years upon years.
Have you ever been to Oklahoma? I have, I don't think that there's ever been a mad rush of people wanting to move there. It's not exactly a top destination for tourists or vacationers either.

I don't think that too many people are attracted to Democrat bastions like Newark N.J., Cory Booker's old stomping ground. Or how 'bout Detroit?

But since you want to go down that road consider this:

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Decades Of Democratic Rule Ruined Some Of Our Finest Cities ...
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...finest-cities/
How Decades Of Democratic Rule Ruined Some Of Our Finest Cities. They’ve also been in charge as Flint has become one the country’s poorest cities (the second poorest, says the Census Bureau, for a city of its size), and a haven for criminals -- it’s the most dangerous city in America, according to Business Insider.

Democrats Run America’s Ten Poorest Cities | What Did You Say?
https://whatdidyousay.org/2013/09/25...oorest-cities/
The Left, of course, laughs at the news that the ten poorest cities in the country are all run by Democrats. Meanwhile, they parrot the talking points of the liberal media by pretending that stories like this one, about the poorest states being Republican , actually mean something.

Democrats Have Almost Always Run America's Poorest Cities
https://www.titansreport.com/topic/2...oorest-cities/
Democrats Run America’s Ten Poorest Cities I have come to believe that chain emails may one day lead to the death of our society. Chain emails alone are responsible for the creation and the success of at least one popular website, snopes.com. Chain emails (and their ugly step-sister, the forward)...

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.

The Unfortunate Truth of Democratic Urban Governance
https://pensivepost.com/the-unfortun...e-bce7c8abc2a3
The ubiquity of Democratic governance is heightened in this context, as nine out of the ten poorest cities are run by Democrats. Combining the past ten mayors of the three poorest cities — Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit — there are twenty-three Democrats, three Socialists, two Independents, and two Republicans.

Every City Which Is a Poverty Center Is Run By Democrats
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/e...s-the-solution
Every major city in America which is a center of poverty is run by Democrats and has been under Democratic party control for a very long time. If those communities want to reverse their fortunes it’s time to stop voting for Democrats.

Democrats Run America's Ten Poorest Cities
Democrats Run America's Ten Poorest Cities
Democrats Run America's Ten Poorest Cities Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961 Buffalo, N.Y. (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954

Top ten poorest cities run by democrats.
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-75160-1.html
The democrats have taken God out of the schools and many are tying to take him our of our country.What they fail to realize is if it wasnt for the Good Lord,this country would have never survived all these yrs.Now you have people in Congress who put money first,the American people second and I really believe half of them dont believe in God ...
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If you live around Fayetteville-Bentonville, Arkansas or Springfield MO it's alright. Get away from that and it's like the movie "Winter's Bone." I highly recommend that movie to anybody who wants a deeper insight into Ozark culture.
Fayetteville metro has grown too big to be considered rural.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:33 PM
 
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I've spent years living in rural America....and in-between and in the burbs.

What often goes unsaid here (and elsewhere) is that many of these rural areas are/were used and abused and all is not as it seems. It looks pretty from the road until you discover that the mines ruined the water and the fishing.....and that the other side of that ridgeline looks like an Atomic Bomb hit it.

Lots of nice places where you can find incredibly high levels of arsenic and other poisons in the soil from older ag use (Florida as one example).

All of the growth and economic success of the USA came with a cost...both here and in the ROW (rest of world)...

Like most naive Americans I thought escaping to the boonies would be pure living. It was anything but. Some places have dumped millions of gallons of chicken poo in their swamps and waterways, others the same with coal ash....

It's really hard to find this "rural" America that so many talk about....that does not have either terrible weather (cotton country) or the legacy of environmental disaster.
So people are escaping that and running to big urban cities where the air, water and soil is cleaner? LOL Do you even believe the BS you spew here?
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That's not true with me. I'm smart enough to land any white collar job.

I hate the metropolitan areas because they have destroyed small communities and turned the economy into a corporate managed society where might makes right.
I think Wal-Mart, strip malls and Amazon have had more to do with destroying small communities.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Wait until the movie Hillbilly Elegy comes out. Trump supporters that are delighting in attacking urban areas are going to lose their minds and will cry victimhood. They will say the left is making fun of the poor even though the writer of Hillbilly Elegy grew up in Appalachia and wrote the book explaining the contradictions of his family and the people he grew up with.

https://www.latimes.com/books/la-et-...405-story.html

If Republican policies are so great, why are there so few Republican cities? Why are the most booming areas of the country liberal?



They didn't. Small town economies tend to die natural deaths and Republican economies tend to be at war with things that strengthen their economic survival. Look at what current Alaska Republican governor Dunleavy is doing to the Alaska's state university. He wants to cut state funding to the university by 40% which will result in many students leaving Alaska, unlikely to return.


Alaska’s governor is trying to destroy its universities. The state may never recover
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...em-budget-cuts
A number of other red states have cut funding for higher education. Oklahoma cut it by nearly 16% in 2016. There had been other cuts since 2009. As a result, tuition went up and college enrollment has dropped at Oklahoma State University. It led to the cancellation of construction on a new mid raise apartment complex near the edge of campus.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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I think Wal-Mart, strip malls and Amazon have had more to do with destroying small communities.
Yep. Small communities essentially killed themselves. I remember growing up in a smallish town that had a vibrant downtown. But then they allowed a mall to be built on the edge of town. There went downtown business. Then the big boxes came and there went the mall.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:45 PM
 
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We get one of these threads about once a week. Either bashing cities or bashing rural life. So I'm just going to state positives.


Different strokes for different folks. Cities in general have many appealing features. The best hospitals are normally found where there are population densities to support them. For those who say that isn't an issue. Well you must be young and in perfect health, but remember cancer doesn't give a damn about your age or perfect health.

Cities have a taste of everything and huge variety. Me, I love a variety especially when it is food.

Public transportation makes life pretty convenient as well.

Rural life has it's advantages as well.

Clean air and quiet. That's life in the country. You will see wildlife every day. You can have a big garden and a big yard and a beautiful home for far less than what you would pay in a big city. ( This is true of small town America as well.)

Prices tend to be lower as do taxes. Schools are okay some better than others.

What I like best is the culture and the people. (except for the transplants). The people tend to be very caring and protective of each other. Everyone knows everyone and the kids have on average better manners towards their elders.

I love visiting the city. Some cities like Singapore are super clean and the air is fresh. Not country fresh but it is clean. I love the variety I see and experience, but I am a country boy at heart, so I will always prefer open spaces.

Which is better? To each their own.

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