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Old 07-30-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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They already know about it but Putin keeps sitting on it. And as long as Trump keeps dancing to Putin's tune it'll be safe. But one day when Putin decides the time is right it'll come out and the entire planet will have a mighty good laugh at Trump's expense.
Quite the opposite.
Trump sold lethal arms to Ukraine, something Obama was scared to do....
Trump persuaded Merkel to spend $576 million on a terminal to receive U.S. liquefied natural gas.
Trump criticized Germany for strengthening Russia by relying on Russia to supply Germany's energy.
Trump closed down the Russian consulate and expelled 60 Russian diplomats.
Trump filled his cabinet full anti-Russia dudes- Bolton, Pompeo, Mattis, Kelly and Coates.
US soldiers killed and wounded 200 to 300 mercenary Russians in Syria in February, 2018 according to reports by Reuters and NY Times.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Quite the opposite.
Trump sold lethal arms to Ukraine, something Obama was scared to do....
Trump persuaded Merkel to spend $576 million on a terminal to receive U.S. liquefied natural gas.
Trump criticized Germany for strengthening Russia by relying on Russia to supply Germany's energy.
Trump closed down the Russian consulate and expelled 60 Russian diplomats.
Trump filled his cabinet full anti-Russia dudes- Bolton, Pompeo, Mattis, Kelly and Coates.
US soldiers killed and wounded 200 to 300 mercenary Russians in Syria in February, 2018 according to reports by Reuters and NY Times.
And then Trump comes out at Helsinki and dances to Putin's tune.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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“Multiple sources familiar with the FBI spreadsheet tell me the vast majority of Steele's claims were deemed to be wrong, or could not be corroborated even with the most awesome tools available to the U.S. intelligence community.
Really, "Multiple Sources FAMILIAR with a FBI spreadsheet" is what this guy is hanging his entire Op-Ed on? But enough with the Opinion guys who know nothing yet claim to know everything because A friend of a friend who knew a friend said he heard something about a spreadsheet, PERHAPS.

Look I don't think the Steele Dossier was suppose to be a ultra factual document as it was speculation and pieced together stories from sources, something you would expect from spy agencies. I guess my confusion with all this Steele Dossier stuff is Republican congressmen on the intelligence committees should know how the investigation started, they have all the classified documents and briefs. At least the "gang of 8" was briefed. Heck they can get the FISA warrants and Grand Jury information if they were so inclined to request it while they were in power for 2 years in the house.

So why continue this BS story of investigating the investigation when they already have the information in front of them. That is why I don't think anything will change or Republicans would have taken it to the media and White House already.
I am sure no one questions Devin Nunez's ability to deliver everything he learns directly to the White House.


At some point Trump will have to answer these questions directly during a debate, there will be a townhall where this question will be asked directly by a audience member to him without others to block and protect. The game has a endpoint before November 2020 so why not get it over with now, he's setting up his own October Surprise on himself.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That is an opinion article in the Hill, if so many agents are aware then surely Barr knows about this. Nunes staff and Gowdy already reviewed the Page Warrant over a year ago and it’s dead, why are these people still elevating conspiracy theories.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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So the Democrats paid Russia for non factual dirt? Sounds about right since they don't like facts.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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That is an opinion article in the Hill, if so many agents are aware then surely Barr knows about this. Nunes staff and Gowdy already reviewed the Page Warrant over a year ago and it’s dead, why are these people still elevating conspiracy theories.
Bingo, hence why it's such a boring conspiracy theory. The people that claim to be investigating already know the answer so it a moot point.

Area 51 works because its such a closed off and isolated area that the claim of "something weird going on" rings as plausible to many Americans.

I have a hard time believing that Attorney General Barr is clueless on how it started. Actually I think AG Barr has the information and will "Slow walk" any Justice department investigation into the "Start of the probe" by the FBI.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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And then Trump comes out at Helsinki and dances to Putin's tune.
He tries to make friends with the most dangerous people, same as his bond with Kim, actually he's a lot closer to Kim than he is to Putin.
That is how you reduce the threat of war, lull them into a relationship, while remaining vigilante policy-wise.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:52 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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I’m amazed at the number of democrats that still think the dossier is factual. Plenty of examples are included in the article.

“Multiple sources familiar with the FBI spreadsheet tell me the vast majority of Steele's claims were deemed to be wrong, or could not be corroborated even with the most awesome tools available to the U.S. intelligence community. One source estimated the spreadsheet found upward of 90 percent of the dossier's claims to be either wrong, nonverifiable or open-source intelligence found with a Google search.”

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...teeles-dossier
Recent reports have stated that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, whose office is an internal Justice Department has been to London to interviewe Steele at some legth and found Steele’s information sufficiently credibl to extend his investigation. Apparently having interviewed Steele for some 16 hours, US investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising.

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In that same month, Attorney General William Barr, who now heads the Justice Department, told a congressional committee that the Horowitz probe would be completed by May or June.

One of the two sources said Horowitz’s investigators appear to have found Steele’s information sufficiently credible to have to extend the investigation. Its completion date is now unclear.

Trump 'dossier' author grilled by Justice Department watchdogs: sources - Reuters

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The extensive, two-day interview took place in London while Trump was in Britain for a state visit, the sources said, and delved into Steele’s extensive work on Russian interference efforts globally, his intelligence-collection methods and his findings about Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who the FBI ultimately surveilled. The FBI’s decision to seek a surveillance warrant against Page — a warrant they applied for and obtained after Page had already left the campaign — is the chief focus of the probe by Horowitz.

The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016. Steele’s American lawyer was present for the conversation.


Trump dossier author Steele gets 16-hour DOJ grilling - Politico

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Old 07-30-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Russia of youre listening"
got it started.

Popadopolous, Steele, curious. ...Trump made the Nations jaw drop with that statement... he revealed himself and gave credit to both george and Steele.
A unanimous cry "traitor" was heard around the nation.
Wow,, speculation on steroids.. this is what the MSM CNN MSNBC feeds the masses and it is not credible.. just innuendo.. propaganda..
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Recent reports have stated that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, whose office is an internal Justice Department has been to London to interviewe Steele at some legth and found Steele’s information sufficiently credibl to extend his investigation. Apparently having interviewed Steele for some 16 hours, US investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising.
The deep thinkers are thinking if the FBI and DOJ was corrupt against President Trump, how can they be the ones investigating themselves.. they can disregard any evidence of wrong doing toward Trump and leave out their own guilty corrupt ways of how they went after Trump which is very evident as they handed out Hillary's associates with immunity and went after only Trump associates to strong arm them to turn. This is pure corruption. Dems accept corruption but Alan Dersowitz was one man who stood against that corruption . The rest of the dems support corruption. That is the deep state.
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