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Old 07-31-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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How much does the teacher and fireman pay in premiums, deductibles and co-pays right now, including what the employer "pays"?

Where is the proof that a more progressive system based on ability to pay (taxes) will lead to the typical household paying more than now for health care?
Do you assume everyone gets sick to the tune of thousands of dollars out of pocket each year ?
Most people are quite healthy and only fork out premiums.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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Do you assume everyone gets sick to the tune of thousands of dollars out of pocket each year ?
Most people are quite healthy and only fork out premiums.

The premiums "only" are thousands of dollars.


Remember to count employer's contributions if any as well.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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The premiums "only" are thousands of dollars.


Remember to count employer's contributions if any as well.
Premiums over the course of a year are usually over $1000 for any type of insurance..car, home, health, life.

What do you expect $20 a month premium ?

You think this medicare for all is the answer ?
Wasn't Obamacare the answer back in 2009 ? And look how that turned out.
We already see what government provided/subsidized insurance looks like and it ain't pretty.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Premiums over the course of a year are usually over $1000 for any type of insurance..car, home, health, life.

What do you expect $20 a month premium ?

You think this medicare for all is the answer ?
Wasn't Obamacare the answer back in 2009 ? And look how that turned out.
We already see what government provided/subsidized insurance looks like and it ain't pretty.



What now?


My total family premiums (4 people, 2 employer contributions) are 18k+ a year.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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What now?


My total family premiums (4 people, 2 employer contributions) are 18k+ a year.
Wouldnt it be nice to have a free market system that resulted in lower prices, and that wouldn't require a third party to pay them? The money paid in premiums could then be set aside for future use, invested, or used to improve your present standard of living. Sounds terrible huh?
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Again, do the Democrat clowns think we're all on drugs?

These people can't even take care of the garbage in the cities that they run--and they're going take over health care/insurance?
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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IMO all you will see is some small changes to Obamacare. After what happened a few years ago you think the Democrats have any stomach for what Harris would like to do? Unless she could take executive action and implement it (I don't think she can) then her proposal is nothing more than campaign talk.
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Old Today, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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If it's supposedly so much cheaper, why doesn't Canada pay for it? Why does 75% of the Canadian population have to buy or earn supplemental private health insurance to pay for what Canadian national health care doesn't cover?
As someone has already stated, this is getting tiring.

It has been explained to you, but you keep posting exactly the SAME post over and over.

Once again, supplemental insurance, covers dental, optometrists, and prescriptions. Most people get this for free through work. I am retired, and on my partners plan through their work.

Everything else is covered, from broken fingers, to brain tumours. No networks, no co-pays, no bills. No filling out forms, no worry about costs.

The fact that if I am not feeling well, and I'm away from my doctors office visiting a friend hundreds of kilometres away from home, and knowing the I can simply go to any clinic, or hospital, and not be worried about them being in network, makes life here a bit more relaxed.

If you are poor in Canada there are programs to pay for your prescriptions etc. In my province it's Pharmacare.

There is also talk about getting a national prescription program to cover all Canadians. It's not even controversial here, because it just makes sense, and Canadians already have experience with UHC and can see the benefits.

The constant lies, about Canada on CD are also tiring. People posting that if you have cancer, you must go the US for care. BLATANT lies. Having known, several people who have gone through multiple cancers, I find the above insulting. Not only to me, but to all the Cancer Centres in Canada and the proffesional excellent care they provide.

Here's some free advice.

Instead of trying to bash or pick at Canadian healthcare, try looking at what works around the world, and start to put together a plan that works for the US. Try to see through the propaganda about UHC. Seriously, people around the world just don't understand why some in the US are fighting so hard against their OWN best interests.
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Old Today, 03:59 PM
 
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As someone has already stated, this is getting tiring.

It has been explained to you, but you keep posting exactly the SAME post over and over.

Once again, supplemental insurance, covers dental, optometrists, and prescriptions.
That's exactly the point. Canada's national health care doesn't cover everything. Supplemental private insurance must be bought or earned to cover what Canadian health care does not. Stupid lefty Americans think Medicare for All will cover everything..
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