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Old 07-30-2019, 08:55 PM
 
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So how does Kamala Harris intend to pay for her Medicare For All plan? Tax households making $100k or more (which is squarely middle class in most HCOL areas) and charge taxes on stock trades which is again arbitrary theft from many hardworking middle class folks who are diligently trying to save in their 401k and other accounts for retirement. Disgusting and despicable!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...ill-pay-for-it

"Harris’ rollout is a 3-part plan covering all medical essentials exempting households below $100,000, a higher income threshold for middle-class families living in high-cost areas"

$100,000/yr is NOT high income in high-cost areas!! Is this woman on drugs?

"To pay for these changes, she will tax Wall Street stock trades at 0.2%, bond trades at 0.1%, and derivative transactions at 0.002%."

Yeah, let's become another Europe where the government just steals and pillages from private enterprises and business, look how well it's worked for them... record unemployment, record negative business activity, horrible economies that they have not been able to jumpstart in decades.
A teacher and a fireman in a household is consider by liberals to be rich and therefore needs to pay more.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Also, how many thousands, tens of thousands of jobs that go with that.

I would never trade my excellent private health insurance for crap government-run medicare.
Go to the DMV and tell me you don't want them handling your medical decisions.

BTW, I'm betting there are way too many kidneys going to white males. Lol
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Go to the DMV and tell me you don't want them handling your medical decisions.

BTW, I'm betting there are way too many kidneys going to white males. Lol
Is that a joke? Dealing with the DMV is a great example of why UHC wouldn’t work. Imagine that mess.

Government crap is slow and inefficient.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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Is that a joke? Dealing with the DMV is a great example of why UHC wouldn’t work. Imagine that mess.

Government crap is slow and inefficient.
Oh, I've dealt with the government in many ways.

When you have a monopoly that everyone is forced to use, customer service sucks and there is no accountability.

Did you know that if an IRS agent tells you incorrect information, and you have documented proof of this, you are still responsible for paying all the penalties occurred due to that wrong information.

Imagine going to a bakery to pick up a cake. You have a copy of the order in your hand, and they give you the wrong cake, but they say they aren't responsible for doing it wrong and now they are going to charge you labor for having to listen to you explain that the cake is wrong. That's essentially how government works.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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Is that a joke? Dealing with the DMV is a great example of why UHC wouldn’t work. Imagine that mess.

Government crap is slow and inefficient.
Their damn fast as compared to insurance companies.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:11 PM
 
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Their damn fast as compared to insurance companies.
I'll let the veterans who died waiting for the VA to make their appointments know how well you were treated at the DMV.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Their damn fast as compared to insurance companies.
That’s not my experience. My health insurance is excellent.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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I'll let the veterans who died waiting for the VA to make their appointments know how well you were treated at the DMV.
1, I said insurance companies not the VA.
2. I am a vet. Are you?
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Yes. All pension funds, 401Ks, IRAs, etc. trade stock equities, bonds, and even derivatives (under the proposal, ALL would be taxed). In fact, US workers and retirees have $28 trillion worth of such investments held in their pensions and/or retirement accounts. Dems just can't wait to get their hands on that $28 trillion of untouched money that US workers/retirees count on being there when they need it in their retirement, to tax it.

71% of those age 55+ have a pension and/or some form of a retirement account.

As for that tax, it's even worse than it seems at first glance. Each TRADE is taxed. Therefore, each investment is taxed TWICE. Once when it is bought for the pension/retirement account portfolio, and then AGAIN when it is sold to provide liquidity for pension/retirement account draws/payouts.
Actually it's even worse. The funds are subject to income tax, either when invested (Roth) or when withdrawn (conventional IRA/401k). Add to that-those funds come from the ownership of the corporations held by the mutual funds (or other agents). The income from those corporations is already taxed via corporate income taxes.

Our tax code is structured to penalize individuals that try to take responsibility for their own futures, to invest in companies, that create jobs. Yet it rewards those that contribute little or nothing.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:28 PM
 
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1, I said insurance companies not the VA.
2. I am a vet. Are you?
The armed services trained you on the legal issues involving the liablity of government agencies? Which branch was that?

The VA is government ran healthcare.

At least you can seek relief in the courts when dealing with private companies. Good look with taking government healthcare to court.
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