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Old 08-01-2019, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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CO2 forms a perfectly good metric for a broad consumption tax.
And there it is.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Austin
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AUSTIN, Texas -- We thank Tuesday's rare late-July cold front for a pleasant change in the weather, even if only temporary, which include some of the coldest temperatures ever seen in Austin in the month of July.

With a low of 58 reported at 5:59 a.m. Wednesday morning, the Austin-Bergstrom International Airport official thermometer blew away the old all-time monthly low of 60 from 2013, making it the coldest July morning since World War II in parts of the Capital City. The July 25th daily record low of 67 (from 2000) was also shattered.

In the metro, Camp Mabry's official thermometer hit 63 which busted the previous daily record of 65 from 1924.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/aus...d-on-wednesday
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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International Falls broke 121 year record by posting a low of 37F.

But that’s just weather according to warmers.



Oh, so there it is .........unconditional proof that climate change does not exist ! One cold day proves this is just a farce with no basis in truth !


But, I have a question. What happens if we get one hotter than normal day ? Does that offset this theory ? Which one do I believe ?
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Um...you keep saying that, but most major cities in the US have been warming. Chicago is maybe a bit of an exception, but New York and LA have definitely been warming.

Why wouldn't a growing city/airport experience warming?

More heat sinks (concrete, buildings, etc.) means warmer temperatures in the surrounding areas.

Oddly enough, that's where most weather stations are located (universities, airports, and the like).
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: NC
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And you pointed that out based on one day in International Falls...A.K.A., Neptune.

What’s next? A weather report from Nizhneyansk, Siberia?
Exactly. N=1 does not equate to a statistically valid observation.

I wonder if 310 believes racism is real, he should because a black man got shot somewhere
I wonder if he thinks the economy is bad under trump? He should, the dow was down 300 yesterday
I wonder if he thinks America under Trump is hated around the world? He should, because a British Politician said so.


I'm not saying racism is not real, that the economy does not have problems, or that the US reputation is not being damaged under Trump (I'm not saying anything about those). I am saying you can't draw conclusions about trends based on a single data point. It's silly.

I gave the examples above because he defended his observation due to "double standards", to illustrate how silly it is.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why wouldn't a growing city/airport experience warming?

More heat sinks (concrete, buildings, etc.) means warmer temperatures in the surrounding areas.

Oddly enough, that's where most weather stations are located (universities, airports, and the like).
I don't know your source for this, but most that I am personally familiar with are located away from cities at research facilities and airports and such.

Could you source it, please?
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Oh, so there it is .........unconditional proof that climate change does not exist ! One cold day proves this is just a farce with no basis in truth !

But, I have a question. What happens if we get one hotter than normal day ? Does that offset this theory ? Which one do I believe ?
Fair question, but does a heat wave in Western Europe (offset by cold in Russia) and in Alaska prove anything either?
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I am saying you can't draw conclusions about trends based on a single data point. It's silly.
But a single data point can operate as a reality check.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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I don't know your source for this, but most that I am personally familiar with are located away from cities at research facilities and airports and such.

Could you source it, please?
"First order stations are those maintained professional by the NWS or the Federal Aviation Administration. In Alaska, there are 21 first order sites,
......all of which are located at airports..... except for the station in Valdez"



Observing Stations - NOAA / NWS
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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Didn't read the whole article did you?
of course I did....it's just more of the same old clap trap

90 degrees in Alaska is the new normal, temperatures are expected to increase....it's Armageddon we're all going to die global warming...even though it's centered on a high pressure dome...that's just weather

105 years ago...when the temperature was 10 degrees hotter....a month sooner......was just weather

"Alaska's highest temp was 100F....June 27, 1915...a month sooner....and over 100 years ago"
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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You can't just make-up the title "warmers" to prove your point. It is climate change, and encompasses a wide range of weather extremes that are out of the ordinary. No one weather occurrence proves or disproves it.
It's a ridiculous concept and it's a political one. The Earth is cooling, not warming. That is a fact. What is happening is temporary. It's cooling, always cooling.

2 million years ago it was warmer even with the ice ages that happened in the northern hemisphere.
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