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Old 07-30-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Seattle area is very expensive. That's why $15/hr makes sense.

40 more restaurants opened after they raised min. wage. Over 100,000 new workers were hired. Some had hrs cut, some didn't. They put that money back into the local economy, helping the economy of the area. (not into an investment account, like wealthy people do)
Wage is meaningless. It’s all about what the wage will buy in the local economy.

There are thousands of economies is the US which is why a Federal Minimum Wage makes no sense.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The restoring decency thing is a winning angle I think. Delaney and Williamson win here.
Williamson wants to change how Americans view politics. Not just as an elitist sport on how to increase commerce, but create a more equal and healthy society.

Restoring decency is just code for go back to the Obama era where democrats subsidies corporate insurance, protect wall street bankers, empower private equity to dilute companies for cash investment, or force lower wages onto Honduras creating a border crisis all the while smiling in the camera and whispering sweet nothings?

That's not was Williamson wants, it is what Delaney wants.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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I don't get the sense that any besides Buttigieg really understand what this is about. They are trying to debate policies and why theirs (the dem view) is better...but none have actually come out and said "elect me as your president and this is why".

Virtually all of what they are all talking about requires Congress to write AND pass bills with both side's support, and THEN the president can sign them.

There is absolutely zero chance of repealing all private healthcare here. Done deal. It would be political suicide to suggest it.

Warren keeps railing about the $23b in health insurance profits this year...what she doesn't understand is health insurance companies do a remarkable job keeping a lid on costs in an industry where $3.5 TRILLION is spent annually. And they do it way more efficiently than the government would be able to do it.
Yep, the healthcare issue is such a huge overall issue, and riddled with discussions and specifics that cannot be summarized in a 40 second debate one liner zingers.

A tricky topic and such a can of worms.

The candidates should focus on Buttigieg's strategy, but most of them fizzled tonight.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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That's because college grads are already a subset of smarter-than-average people willing to make sacrifices for their future. If we dumb down college to send everyone through, at no cost to them, it becomes a 4-year adult camp (with some classes thrown in), and those societal benefits of college grads disappear.
I don't consider someone who went to a private school on loans for an art degree and has 0 job prospects smarter than an auto mechanic that can actually perform a job and has a skill.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That's because college grads are already a subset of smarter-than-average people willing to make sacrifices for their future. If we dumb down college to send everyone through, at no cost to them, it becomes a 4-year adult camp (with some classes thrown in), and those societal benefits of college grads disappear.

There would still be academic admission requirements and GPA cutoff as well as required minimal GPA to graduate.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Diabetes 2 is an epidemic. It costs an average of nearly $10,000/ year to treat each case of Doabetes and ensuing complications. That more than any individual premium or deductible.

Those with waist sizes in the healthy range get “ free” healthcare. The rest pay unsubsidized premiums based on the dif between healthy and actual waist size. Apply this across the board, including Medicaid and Medicare.

Give people 2 years notice.

Provide a financial incentive for people to choose healthier lifestyles.
Up to 40% of Type 2 diabetics (those who get the disease mostly due to lifestyle) will develop kidney disease and must be treated with dialysis. The US government is mandated to provide this service for free at a cost of over $100b a year. This will double by 2030.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Warren always skips over the Pocahontas chapter of her life story, stops right at community college
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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I don't get the sense that any besides Buttigieg really understand what this is about. They are trying to debate policies and why theirs (the dem view) is better...but none have actually come out and said "elect me as your president and this is why".

Virtually all of what they are all talking about requires Congress to write AND pass bills with both side's support, and THEN the president can sign them.

There is absolutely zero chance of repealing all private healthcare here. Done deal. It would be political suicide to suggest it.

Warren keeps railing about the $23b in health insurance profits this year...what she doesn't understand is health insurance companies do a remarkable job keeping a lid on costs in an industry where $3.5 TRILLION is spent annually. And they do it way more efficiently than the government would be able to do it.
That's true. But voters don't get revved up about things that CAN be done vs. a wish list. Think about all of Trump's promises, most of which have been forgotten. Remember there was supposed to be a yuge infrastructure bill on Day One? Remember that Mexico would pay for The Wall? Remember that coal mining would spring back right away? Remember that he'd save all the Carrier jobs and prevent Carrier from moving to Mexico? Remember that the steel manufacturing would become what it once was? Remember that he'd see to it that GM would bring all those lost jobs back? (it's actually laying off thousands more) Remember that he was going to repeal and replace Obamacare? Replacing it with great health care, the best health care, insuring every single American at much less cost?

I think the idea is that they are giving what they would want to do, if they could. So you know what they would be working for.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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and for those that don't know college is already free....just gotta serve and get the GI Bill....but that would require work.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Warren always skips over the Pocahontas chapter of her life story, stops right at community college
I noticed that. She conveniently skips over using her “native blood” for preferential entry.
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