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Old 08-01-2019, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Of all of them, I agree with Biden's policies the most. All the rest are way too far to the left. Tulsi supported Sanders in 2016 and I think her father was accused of being some sort of cult member, something Hindu that opposed LBGT. Being Hindu makes her anti-Muslim which may resonate with a lot of people who hate Muslims so maybe that gives her an advantage.

But I think (will have to read more about her) she's like the rest with the giveaways and health care for all "residents" instead of for all citizens and LEGAL residents. That means health care for illegals, maybe even open borders.

Biden's healthcare plan is just to keep the ACA but fix it and let people keep their plan where they work if they want to. Kind of simple. Don't throw the baby out with the dishwater--build on the ACA which we already have. And he's not forcing anyone to join the ACA. He's got all the right policies but he's just not a good debater, probably he's too nice a guy. He's the guy you'd want to sit down and have a beer with, a good neighbor, a good friend. Too bad so much of this has to rely on debating skills.
If you're biggest complaint is that she wouldn't support Hillary in 2016 and the sins of her father - then I don't know what the issue is.

She said she is not in favor of healthcare for illegals. She wants a strong border, but thinks we have to do something to clear the path for citizenship for the people already here.

She's against the fake wars we've engaged in and will bring our troops back within the first year.

She didn't get that many opportunities to speak, so it's not that hard to remember the few things she said.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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The republicans have dropped the ball on healthcare and I am disappointed at it. My personal viewpoint is I disagree with the current system of no consumer price shopping and disagree with the proposed system of "use whatever you want because it's free". But insurance companies do accomplish a decent amount of price shopping on consumers behalf and do a good job of keeping a lid on increased costs. The US produces the lions share of healthcare advances and the world takes advantage of that by mandating low reimbursement rates for advances.
1. Nobody's going to "use whatever they want because it's free." I think most people will avoid receiving medical services if it's unnecessary. I don't know a single person that receives unnecessary medical care. It's an incredible waste of time going to the doctor for something unnecessary. You know who currently does waste people's time and money? People in the medical profession who profit off of unnecessary care. I visited an allergy doctor and he likes me to come in every 6 months as a check up? Why - I have no freaking clue medically. So I can blow into a tube and pay like $100 for it and be there for 10 minutes and learn that my lungs are functioning fine. It's a total waste. I'm saying this as someone who's run a marathon in just over 3 hours while not being on a single allergy or asthma medication. But hey, he needs customers to stay in business. Or how about the physical therapist who gets a $45 copay every time I walk in the door even though I can do the same exercises at home.

2. President Trump likes to talk about how we subsidize everyone else's share of the lack of funding they pay to NATO, yet he prefers a system in which U.S. citizens pay more for medical care per capita than the rest of the world to fund these advancements, to the point that people ration prescriptions or avoid going to the doctor sometimes for necessary care if they don't have sufficient insurance.

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Yet somehow the government was 90% funded by tariffs before the individual income tax was implemented in the 1900's. Clearly they can work. Adjustment is needed. The bigger issue is Trump actually has stated numerous times he wants zero tariffs worldwide on American products going into other countries. Sometimes you must take a step back in order to move forward.
Comparing how we funded our government over 100 years ago when only a handful of countries were industrialized and it took several days to travel to another continent is silly.

Adjustment is needed for trade. I'm not sure you get there by starting a trade war. We won't win a trade war with China right now.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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yup
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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I have lived in Colorado now for almost 12 years. I knew that Bennett was our senator, but I never heard a peep out of him until this last JAN/FEB when he went on an anti-Trump rant, and because of the feedback to that, decided to run for president. He will not make it. Bennett almost lost his 2016 re-election campaign to an unknown conservative black attorney who had absolutely no money and no support from the RNC.

I like Hickenlooper, but he does not have any chance either. He would make a good VP though.

I think the Democrats will push forth Biden. It is too bad. He is too old, and worse yet, he is and always will be a Washington insider. Plan on a resurgence of the Clinton family under him if he gets elected president.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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If you're biggest complaint is that she wouldn't support Hillary in 2016 and the sins of her father - then I don't know what the issue is.

She said she is not in favor of healthcare for illegals. She wants a strong border, but thinks we have to do something to clear the path for citizenship for the people already here.

She's against the fake wars we've engaged in and will bring our troops back within the first year.

She didn't get that many opportunities to speak, so it's not that hard to remember the few things she said.
Yeah, and I have no clue what the poster means about her being perceived as anti-Muslim because she has some Hindu background
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Tulsi's remark can be better explained given this tweet:

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Old 08-01-2019, 06:17 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Andrew Yang is a yawn to me. Product of boarding school. Another yawn.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Yeah, and I have no clue what the poster means about her being perceived as anti-Muslim because she has some Hindu background
Seemed like a stretch to try and find reasons to fault her - except they weren't good reasons and the poster couldn't remember anything Tulsi Gabbard had said.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:19 AM
 
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Yeah, and I have no clue what the poster means about her being perceived as anti-Muslim because she has some Hindu background
What? Are you serious?

Go look at what happened in 1947 India when it was partitioned to form Pakistan. This for the specific purpose of removing Muslims from India. 100s of 1000s if not millions killed. And now India (Hindu) and Pakistan (Muslim) have atomic bombs pointed at each other.

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Old 08-01-2019, 06:28 AM
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Tulsi's remark can be better explained given this tweet:

If she ever won the election she would soon find out that the forces who want these perpetual wars are much more powerful than a mere president. I agree with much of what she says on foreign policy but I don't agree that Trump wants what the war mongers want, he's just learned that he doesn't have the power to stop them.
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