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Old 07-31-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If someone wants you dead, you will die.
That is a fact of life.


Getting the drop, is the easy part.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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He bought the gun in Nevada, he would not have been allowed to purchase the gun in California. Yet another way in which strict gun laws in one state are defeated by weak gun law states.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Obviously no one expected someone with the intention of mass shooting to cut the fence.

Had this not been a gun free zone, itís possible more people would have been shot as it is not possible to distinguish a good vs bad guy with a gun in the middle of chaos. Conversely, itís also possible those armed would have ran for their lives with everyone else, as they did in the Dallas mass shooting. They grasped in an instant that firing their firearm would have made them targets of other good guys with guns in addition to an unknown number of bad guys with guns.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sometimes words have to be backed up with actions. California has been searching cars for other items for decades now.
They don't search anything. They ask you a question and you say yes or no. They don't check for ammo either.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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He bought the gun in Nevada, he would not have been allowed to purchase the gun in California. Yet another way in which strict gun laws in one state are defeated by weak gun law states.
Was he a felon? With a change of address he would have bought it here. We can still buy AKs and ARs in CA.

Even as a felon he could have bought parts here and had a to go weapon in one hour.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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He got the gun in Nevada, not a gun free zone. Itís a good thing there is never mass murders in Nevada.

I just heard on the news this clown was living at Walker Lake. Outside Hawthorne in Mineral county. Close to home for me. I'm from Yerington about an hour away. If God thought NV needed an enema he would put it in Mineral county.


It's a seriously crappy place. Walker Lake/Hawthorne is an armpit. I know. I lived there for a spell before I moved back home. This cretin had only been there since 2017 so I don't think he was local. Might have known someone there but I figure he was there because it's so off the map.


Blew me away when they brought Walker Lake up on FOX. Not exactly a ...going concern...there. It's a lake all right. A dead one. Not a fish left in it. I call it the Devil's Pi$$ Puddle. Mono Lake is only a short ways from there. There's a big Army ammo depot there. 10 miles away in Hellthorne.


If that base ever closes there won't be a thing in Mineral county of any note at all.
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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But it wasnít a gun free zone was it? There were armed trained police officers patrolling the festival. Didnít seem to give the gunman a pause did it? Why do think you would have made a difference with your weapon when the well trained police did not? Thank goodness the bubbas with a gun were not there. It kept the casualties down.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:25 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I have long advocated banning the AR-15, but after this we need to look at banning the AK-47 as well. It's my understanding that the AK-47 is actually a 'true' assault weapon, whereas the AR-15 is an assault-style weapon.

We should also look at banning the clips. This likely wouldn't have happened here in Washington state, as we have passed assault rifle controls that just went into effect on July 1.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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He got the gun in Nevada, not a gun free zone. Itís a good thing there is never mass murders in Nevada.
What, there was a Major one not long ago, a concert in Las Vegas.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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What, there was a Major one not long ago, a concert in Las Vegas.
Plus he was shooting down from a hotel window. Armed concert goers would not have be able to do a thing. Police went to his hotel room but he shot himself rather than be captured.

If an mass shooter is prepared to die himself, will he care if there are armed citizens? Take out as many people as he can, before he himself dies.
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