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Yes, Males have a biological advantage over females athletically on average 2 25.00%
No, there is no biological advantages, the genders are physically equal 0 0%
Yes, Transgenders should be allowed to use banned steroids unlike cisgendered athletes 0 0%
No: substances should be banned across the board or not at all 0 0%
Have a born-boys league and a born-girls league 3 37.50%
Get rid of gender leagues and have a multi-tiered league mixing the genders even if it hurts girl athletes 1 12.50%
Have a boys league and girls league and simply let transgenders choose their league 2 25.00%
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Old Yesterday, 09:03 PM
 
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Due to the science that men have biological advantages over women athletically speaking, should male born transgendered females be allowed to play in women's sports?

Conversely, Texas made a born girl transgendered boy who was getting testosterone treatment compete with the girls. Those girls would be disqualified if they used testosterone as cheaters (as would the boy athletes in the boy tournament), but he was allowed to use testosterone and compete to assist with the transition from female to male. Is this acceptable?

You don't want transgendered people to be ostracized, but is it fair to allow them to compete while essentially on steroids? Is it fair to cis-gendered girls to have them compete against men in a physical women's sport?



It is a scientific fact that men on average are better athletes than women. Yes, there are exceptions, but on average there is a noticeable difference. No this does not make men better humans, nor does it make them deserving of more rights, or anything else. It is just a biological fact that there are differences in humans.

If you deny the above you are a settled science denier. Biology is not a social construct.


A testosterone cap will not solve the problem of transgenders playing in the gender sport that they identify with either.

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In a paper published in the BMJ Journal of Medical Ethics, researcher Lynley Anderson and her associates Alison Heather and Taryn Knox argued that capping testosterone levels, which has been proposed as a solution to maintaining a level playing field, just won’t cut it.

The researchers found that the 10nmol/L level permitted by the International Olympic Committee was “significantly higher than that of cisgender women, whose sex and gender align as female.”

“It is ten to 20 times higher than a cis female, so this is one of my major concerns,” argued Heather. “At the moment we are really targeting inclusiveness for our trans females to compete in a female division and in that aspect we are not considering a fairness issue for cis females.”

The researchers also argue that the advantages transgender women have over biologically female counterparts extends well beyond testosterone levels. Namely, they have denser and larger muscles, better muscle distribution, and higher lung capacities. Males even have an advantage when it comes to the amount of oxygen they can accumulate.

All this lends to greater strength, agility, dexterity, stamina, and endurance.
Not to mention that men are taller on average.

https://humanevents.com/2019/07/20/t...ww.google.com/

https://jme.bmj.com/content/45/6/395.info


There is a reason why the US Women's Soccer team, the best women's soccer team on earth gets blown out when they play quality 13 and 14 year old boys.


Men on average have significantly higher levels of testosterone. Testosterone does the following:
-Increases bone mass
-Increases bone density
-Increases muscle mass
-Increases aggressive behavior (violence is linked to high testosterone levels)
-Decrease brain activity in the frontal lobe (high-level decision making)
-Increase spatial ability in the brain
-Burn fat

Among other things.


Males simply have more testosterone:


Again, this doesn't make them better human beings, but it does translate to better athletes.


I've had students over the years and even staff deny the science that men on average have biological advantages when it comes to things like strength. Even a valedictorian who got admitted into an ivy league school about a decade ago denied the science that men on average have an advantage for sports.

A common form of denial is to say that gender is a social construct and that encourages young boys to build strength and so forth and girls aren't, which accounts for any measurable difference. This is not true. Testosterone levels are different by gender, period.
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Old Today, 08:57 AM
 
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I think a category of LGBTQIA sports would be best. To answer your question, no because the testosterone and natural male build is too much of an advantage.
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Old Today, 09:01 AM
 
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LGBTQIA would not be a fair category either, because some of those athletes would scientifically be more male while others would be more female.
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Old Today, 09:13 AM
 
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Form your own league and make the rules.

Simple.

*dusts off hands*
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Old Today, 09:50 AM
 
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No. Absolutely not.
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Old Today, 10:15 AM
 
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Form your own league and make the rules.

Simple.

*dusts off hands*
Hey I agree
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Old Today, 01:02 PM
 
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Hey I agree
It's a miracle!



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