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Old Today, 10:42 AM
 
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how much in a flat tax, would the us need to put on every person earning income, to pay for the us budget today?
Considering 50% dont pay any federal taxes today..

That way it would be "fair" for everybody... And everybody had "representation".

10% flat tax?
20% flat tax?
30% flat tax?
40% flat tax?
0%.
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Old Today, 10:50 AM
 
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You have no right whatsoever to declare that they're overpaid.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again... It's no mystery. The only reason so many people just "get by" is because they insist on living beyond their means because they believe they're "entitled" to a lifestyle which they have not earned. Even worse, all that unnecessary spending they do on wants that are NOT needs is their way of voluntarily making the rich even richer. Those who sell products/services to the masses and those who invest in such corporations, etc., are profitting from the masses spending beyond their means.
I have a right to say whatever I want, this is what these forums are for.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat something, you are as always wrong. When 8% of people hold 85% of the total wealth and 70% hold 2.7% of the total wealth is a good indication there's something terribly wrong with how wages are paid, and how rich people multiply money further.

Wages are set arbitrarily from an abusive position.

Global wealth pyramid

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Old Today, 11:15 AM
 
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I have a right to say whatever I want, this is what these forums are for.
You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true.

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It doesn't matter how many times you repeat something, you are as always wrong. When 8% of people hold 85% of the total wealth and 70% hold 2.7% of the total wealth is a good indication there's something terribly wrong with how wages are paid, and how rich people multiply money further.

Wages are set arbitrarily from an abusive position.

Global wealth pyramid
It's not arbitrary. The reason wages are inequal is because the skills sets people possess aren't all the same. A graphic representation of this would be a pyramid. Those with the most rare and in demand skills sets are at the top, and those who are low-education and no/low-skill sets are at the bottom. Since there are a huge number of those at the bottom compared to the very few at the top, the labor value of those at the bottom is low, as there's a glut of such persons. One's wages increase as one's skill sets become increasingly less common and one moves up the pyramid.
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Old Today, 11:18 AM
 
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I have a right to say whatever I want, this is what these forums are for.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat something, you are as always wrong. When 8% of people hold 85% of the total wealth and 70% hold 2.7% of the total wealth is a good indication there's something terribly wrong with how wages are paid, and how rich people multiply money further.

Wages are set arbitrarily from an abusive position.

Global wealth pyramid
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Old Today, 11:29 AM
 
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No, my comment was not absurd. Once again, if I was fortunate enough to be a millionaire, I wouldn't mind paying higher taxes, if I was still a millionaire after paying them.
Why are you so keen on being a millionaire? Low social self-esteem?

I am much more interested in a peaceful, functioning society, which in turn requires good infrastructure and a tight social net. I don't mind paying taxes at all, as long as I still have enough left to pay my bills. Having a strong character, I do not want to accumulate wealth, nor let wealth to my children when I die. Let them work if they want to get anywhere...
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Old Today, 11:33 AM
 
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Why are you so keen on being a millionaire? Low social self-esteem?

I am much more interested in a peaceful, functioning society, which in turn requires good infrastructure and a tight social net. I don't mind paying taxes at all, as long as I still have enough left to pay my bills. Having a strong character, I do not want to accumulate wealth, nor let wealth to my children when I die. Let them work if they want to get anywhere...
We all want to live in a fantasy world, but the odds of what you describe are even lower than someone becoming a billionaire.
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Old Today, 11:40 AM
 
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We all want to live in a fantasy world, but the odds of what you describe are even lower than someone becoming a billionaire.
Really?! It is what many people in Europe, Canada and elsewhere enjoy every day...
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Old Today, 11:52 AM
 
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Really?! It is what many people in Europe, Canada and elsewhere enjoy every day...
Oh, I forgot that Europe and Canada are utopia...carry on.
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Old Today, 11:52 AM
 
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I have a right to say whatever I want, this is what these forums are for.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat something, you are as always wrong. When 8% of people hold 85% of the total wealth and 70% hold 2.7% of the total wealth is a good indication there's something terribly wrong with how wages are paid, and how rich people multiply money further.

Wages are set arbitrarily from an abusive position.

Global wealth pyramid
You have a right to say what you want but you do not have the right to dictate how others shall live their life.
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Old Today, 11:55 AM
 
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I have a right to say whatever I want, this is what these forums are for.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat something, you are as always wrong. When 8% of people hold 85% of the total wealth and 70% hold 2.7% of the total wealth is a good indication there's something terribly wrong with how wages are paid, and how rich people multiply money further.

Wages are set arbitrarily from an abusive position.

Global wealth pyramid
What informedconsent said was exactly right. Please name one exception if you disagree.
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