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View Poll Results: Do you support ballot qualifications outside of the constitution?
Yes: states should put any kind of limitation that they want even for political motivations 6 13.64%
I only support this one and can't fathom other important reasons to do something 1 2.27%
No: This is anti-Democratic. 37 84.09%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Today, 08:26 AM
 
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I am quite content with the precedent of tax disclosure. Documentation is required by law for WH meetings, unfortunately Trump tears up all the papers. Poor staff have to sit there and tape them back together.
Their taxes are already disclosed to the IRS with full documentation.
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Old Today, 08:30 AM
 
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Their taxes are already disclosed to the IRS with full documentation.
The IRS's job is not to look for conflicts of interest and the political aspects that make one subject to question on actions and decisions that can benefit a president.

I also think they now need to make it a requirement to put business in a blind trust. It was on an honor system before to that, but then we elected some with no honor. Now it will need to become law.

A little hypocritical from the party demanding a birth certificate, no? Where was your outrage and demand for privacy then?
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The IRS's job is not to look for conflicts of interest and the political aspects that make one subject to question on actions and decisions that can benefit a president.

I also think they now need to make it a requirement to put business in a blind trust. It was on an honor system before to that, but then we elected some with no honor. Now it will need to become law.

A little hypocritical from the party demanding a birth certificate, no? Where was your outrage and demand for privacy then?
Which is more likely to expose conflicts of interest, back room deals, lies and abuse of power:

1. Tax documents
2. Every word being recorded
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Old Today, 08:37 AM
 
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California really needs to be exiled from the Union. They obviously have their own (authoritarian) ideas concerning government.
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Which is more likely to expose conflicts of interest, back room deals, lies and abuse of power:

1. Tax documents
2. Every word being recorded
Tax documents are a good indicator of many things. It's been done for 4 decades for that reason. Trump has a lot to hide, and shouldn't be able to, but here we are.

Every word will never be recorded, so that is a non-issue. Heck, Trump doesn't even allow staff that should be in meeting to be there, you know, like with Putin and the Russians a few times. He tries to dispose of meeting notes, and required documentation.
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The US Constitution sets the rules for electing the President, not States.
As you undoubtedly know, per the US constitution the president of the United States is chosen by electors, on the whole known as the electoral college.

The US constitution provides that the way electors are chosen is determined by state legislatures. Most state legislatures have given this over to general elections which the state will pay for and regulate.

With regard to primaries: The US constitution was not written with political parties in mind (the 'factions' in congress were informal and variable, sometimes just cliques, not hardened into long lasting parties). Being aware of politics in Britain, the founding fathers actually dreaded the thought that political parties might come to dominate politics in the new country.

The primary process is to accommodate political parties and is actually a cooperation between the individual states and the local (state) parties. Some states have caucuses, for example, and others have a state sponsored elections. The state controls (and pays for) and regulates the election which determines the nominee from that state for the party.

The Republican party of California is free to set up it's own nomination process, as a caucus for instance, if it wishes to do so.
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Old Today, 08:49 AM
 
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Tax documents are a good indicator of many things. It's been done for 4 decades for that reason. Trump has a lot to hide, and shouldn't be able to, but here we are.

Every word will never be recorded, so that is a non-issue. Heck, Trump doesn't even allow staff that should be in meeting to be there, you know, like with Putin and the Russians a few times. He tries to dispose of meeting notes, and required documentation.
So basically the issue for you is getting Trump and not actually shining a light. Got it.
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Old Today, 08:51 AM
 
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Do you support ballot qualifications outside of the constitution?


Constitution provides the states the exclusive right to administer elections. California's law is not an additional qualification. Every state has application forms and deadlines that must be met. Courts have ruled that ballot application rules are constitutional as long as they are even handed and are applied equally to all candidates. Requiring open disclosure and transparency to ensure the voters are well informed about all candidates is a legitimate purpose.
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Do you support ballot qualifications outside of the constitution?


Constitution provides the states the exclusive right to administer elections. California's law is not an additional qualification. Every state has application forms and deadlines that must be met. Courts have ruled that ballot application rules are constitutional as long as they are even handed and are applied equally to all candidates. Requiring open disclosure and transparency to ensure the voters are well informed about all candidates is a legitimate purpose.
Absolutely.

My question is if you believe states should impose rules to target a specific candidate?
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Old Today, 08:56 AM
 
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Notice they don't want to make them public, they want to have an individual see them in order to decide what information about which candidate is released.

Yeah, no partisanship there. Lol
Yeah, that is an extremely disturbing aspect of the law.
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