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Old 08-01-2019, 04:58 AM
 
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There used to be law against fake news. Hmmmm I wonder what happened to that?
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:52 AM
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Chart showing bias by media source. Not surprised Fox is pulling up the rear

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ho...art-2018-02-28
It's hard to take any article or "study" that puts CNN, The Guardian, or The Washington Post in the "neutral" category. What a joke
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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The left can't let the truth get out or no one is going to want the socialist/communist ideas !!!

Informed people are the bain of high Chiefdom Democrats !!!
B.S the right wing media is just as bad as the left I’d even say they are worse then the left only because of the stupid things they whine about. Case in point.
Fox News even called Putin big and strong and muscular. Guess we know where their loyalties really lie.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timv...&feature=share
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Chart showing bias by media source. Not surprised Fox is pulling up the rear

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ho...art-2018-02-28
That chart loses all credibility when it shows that CNN, Vox, and Slate are a fair interpretation (no bias) of the news.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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We have to define media too.

There is a difference between a political pundit and a news anchor or journalist.


Today we have a unique environment where things go viral on social media even before news (hard news) outlets get the stories. By the time they (the hard news guys) get the stories they are reporting on the incident going viral and why - and less about creating the story about the incident.

Covingcton was a good example of that. Someone posted a video on line and purposely implied that the child was being defiant in the video.

Come to realize that while the child did hold his ground - he wasn't being confrontational necessarily -- just reacting and that there was way more to the story.

Where I learned that there was more to the story -- wait for it -- wait for it -- was the MEDIA.......lol......

I've asked a million times for you folks that truly believe all news media is fake to ask for a sticky thread and on a daily basis post a story that is made up facts. Not editorials, not political pundit rants...just a story that is FAKE.

Nobody has ever done it...and we rarely get any Trump 'fake news' accusation discussed here because most of the time he's made it up that it is fake.

The hard news will take Trump's claims and fact check them. Most of the time Trump is not accurate, made it up, etc...so it seems negative press. If Trump says he has the biggest crowd ever and there is nothing to back it up and the press reports his claims noting there is nothing to back it up -- that gets reported as a negative report on Trump...but it is the FACTS.

Trump gets the negative 'press' because of his compulsive rants on twitter and his inability to think intelligently on his feet.

Sure we have to be discerning with the information we are getting...but to imply all media is fake and the press is the enemy of the people is purposely misleading and deflecting the fact that Trump is constantly making up stories, facts.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: New York
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https://i2.wp.com/historyreviewed.co...times-jews.jpg

This is what the “media” is in this country. Good luck defending this chart, if anyone even bothers to care anymore.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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The mainstream media has been Fake News and enemy of the American people for decades....Trump's the only one with enough courage to call them out on their biased lies and they haven't been able to shut him up yet....but they're trying desperately to do so.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Liberals don't give a s### that conservatives and conservative content are routinely censored on Google, YouTube, Twitter, etc.
This is what I don't get. Conservatives believe in an unfettered capitalism in which the market and consumers are the only forces that should shape what a company can and cannot do. So along comes Facebook and they do just that and now the conservatives scream about it. If you want to have a completely open social media platform go build your own. Oh wait, you have one now. Gab.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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This is what I don't get. Conservatives believe in an unfettered capitalism in which the market and consumers are the only forces that should shape what a company can and cannot do. So along comes Facebook and they do just that and now the conservatives scream about it. If you want to have a completely open social media platform go build your own. Oh wait, you have one now. Gab.
I don't believe in unfettered capitalism but I do agree the solution is for conservatives to form their own social media competitors. I also believe companies like Google are too large and powerful and will need to be broken up at some point.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There are literally dozens of examples where the liberal mainstream media has either taken out of context or just flat out lied about Trump's comments or tweets but the mainstream media's claim that Trump called neo-nazis and other white supremacist groups in Charlottesville "fine people" is one of the most brazenly dishonest examples of fake news of them all.

The fake outrage over Trump's C'ville comments from liberals TO THIS VERY DAY two years later despite clear evidence in the form of recorded audio and video as well as the actual transcripts of his comments that day prove how shamelessly dishonest the anti-Trump (and anti-Republican for that matter) mainstream media is. There is no lie too blatant and shameless or line they won't cross in order to further their Orange Man Bad narrative. It's why it's hard not to roll your eyes at the absurd (and quite frankly disingenuous) hand wringing by some on this board worried about "normalizing" Trump's "attacks" on a "free" and "open" press. Spare me.

Liberals don't give a s### that conservatives and conservative content are routinely censored on Google, YouTube, Twitter, etc. If liberals truly cared about threats to a free and open press and threats to freedom of speech in general they'd have a problem with the aforementioned company platforms openly censoring those with opposing political viewpoints. If liberals were actually principled like classical liberals used to be and ina few cases still are (Alan Dershowitz for example) they'd be appalled by such censorship even against their political opposition.

The arrogance and disdain these self righteous elitists have for Trump and even more so his supporters is bad enough but they actually believe everyone is stupid and gullible enough to take everything they report at face value. Does the media not know that there are literally dozens and dozens of videos online DIRECTLY contradicting much of the false reporting they do on Trump? Are they so arrogant and isolated away in their tiny ultra liberal East Coast and West Coast echo chambers that they think everyone is too dumb to find documented evidence directly contradicting at least half the fake anti-Trump garbage they try to pass off as "objective journalism"?

Case in point:


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...of_139815.html
Is the president held to the same standard of truth that you're saying the media is not living up to?
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