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Old 07-31-2019, 07:46 AM
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There are literally dozens of examples where the liberal mainstream media has either taken out of context or just flat out lied about Trump's comments or tweets but the mainstream media's claim that Trump called neo-nazis and other white supremacist groups in Charlottesville "fine people" is one of the most brazenly dishonest examples of fake news of them all.

The fake outrage over Trump's C'ville comments from liberals TO THIS VERY DAY two years later despite clear evidence in the form of recorded audio and video as well as the actual transcripts of his comments that day prove how shamelessly dishonest the anti-Trump (and anti-Republican for that matter) mainstream media is. There is no lie too blatant and shameless or line they won't cross in order to further their Orange Man Bad narrative. It's why it's hard not to roll your eyes at the absurd (and quite frankly disingenuous) hand wringing by some on this board worried about "normalizing" Trump's "attacks" on a "free" and "open" press. Spare me.

Liberals don't give a s### that conservatives and conservative content are routinely censored on Google, YouTube, Twitter, etc. If liberals truly cared about threats to a free and open press and threats to freedom of speech in general they'd have a problem with the aforementioned company platforms openly censoring those with opposing political viewpoints. If liberals were actually principled like classical liberals used to be and ina few cases still are (Alan Dershowitz for example) they'd be appalled by such censorship even against their political opposition.

The arrogance and disdain these self righteous elitists have for Trump and even more so his supporters is bad enough but they actually believe everyone is stupid and gullible enough to take everything they report at face value. Does the media not know that there are literally dozens and dozens of videos online DIRECTLY contradicting much of the false reporting they do on Trump? Are they so arrogant and isolated away in their tiny ultra liberal East Coast and West Coast echo chambers that they think everyone is too dumb to find documented evidence directly contradicting at least half the fake anti-Trump garbage they try to pass off as "objective journalism"?

Case in point:


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...of_139815.html
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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The left can't let the truth get out or no one is going to want the socialist/communist ideas !!!

Informed people are the bain of high Chiefdom Democrats !!!
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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An explanation for Trump haters ...


You lost me with that 'haters' BS.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:08 PM
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An explanation for Trump haters ...


You lost me with that 'haters' BS.

What do you suggest they be called? I'm using "haters" in the literal sense and not in the modern slang sense. Mostly I'm referring to those who have a very strong dislike for the president. Call the anti-Trump crowd or Never Trumpers if it makes you feel better.

Regardless of what term you use to describe them you'd have to be willfully blind or in complete denial to not acknowledge the fact that there is a lot of hatred or animus towards Trump among his critics. There's nothing BS about that or using "haters" to describe many of his harshest critics. I'll concede that there are plenty of people who strongly disagree with him and his style who don't actually hate him but I didn't feel the need to state the obvious though. I didn't vote for him in 2016 but don't hate him and think he's done a reasonably good job considering the incredible amount of powerful forces in the mainstream media, Democratic party, liberals, and even parts of our intelligence community doing all they can to resist, obstruct, and destroy his presidency. Doesn't mean I agree with a lot of the things has done or the way he has done them. The point of this thread was to highlight how dishonest and hypocritical the liberal mainstream media has been in covering him and trying to paint him in the worst possible light.

Don't take this the wrong way, but why do so many people that oppose him refuse to read articles and consider evidence that might challenge the narrative that he is a Russian puppet or that point out the anti-Trump bias and hypocrisy of the mainstream media?

Take the Russian collusion story for example. There are a handful of threads posted each day from those that think the Russian collusion investigation was a severely flawed investigation and flimsy charge to begin with. Those threads usually have linked articles that contain very damning evidence that show serious perhaps criminal malfeasance and misconduct among upper level FBI, DOJ, and CIA officials involved in unethical and possibly criminal acts to spy on the Trump campaign. Yet so many people refuse to even consider the possibility that any of those accusations are true. You would think reasonably objective people would want to know why Mueller couldn't find evidence of Trump/Russia conspiracy if it was as obvious as many anti-Trumpers claims it is. Instead, many refuse to listen and would rather bury their head in the sand than consider that the entire case for Trump Russia conspiracy itself might have been a hoax all along.

I believed Trump colluded with Russia as well early on and just wanted the FBI/DOJ to simply provide the evidence to either impeach or not impeach the president so we could put the matter behind us and move on. I was fine either way but I wasn't going to buy the media or anti-Trump narrative that the evidence of said conspiracy was overwhelming until ACTUAL EVIDENCE was provided. When it became obvious that evidence didn't exist or conspiracy couldn't be proven I starting to dig deeper and study the other side's theory that the entire case was a sham and the investigation itself was corrupt. So far more evidence of the latter has been revealed and it's there for anyone willing to dig a little and be open minded about both side's theories.

Why can't those on the left or even the Never Trumpers on the right actually be open minded about both possibilities? Heck, why can't they be intellectually honest enough to study the Russian collusion hoax theories if nothing else to challenge and debunk them WITH ACTUAL EVIDENCE? Shouldn't be hard to disprove if the hoax theory is the wacky, crazy, and loony conspiracy theory anti-Trumpers claim it is. Yet, anti-Trumpers simply refuse to even engage in a debate.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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There are literally dozens of examples where the liberal mainstream media has either taken out of context or just flat out lied about Trump's comments or tweets but the mainstream media's claim that Trump called neo-nazis and other white supremacist groups in Charlottesville "fine people" is one of the most brazenly dishonest examples of fake news of them all.
Many conservatives are no better in that they also cherry-pick things a liberal might say or take it out of context or flat-out lie about what a liberal said.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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The media is actually Trump's biggest supporters because they got him elected. The media is really the enemy of the democrat supporters. The media have posted so many unsubstantiated stories and cover Hillary and Obama's back the people didn't believe the media so Trump's platform became the anti-MSM choice.

There are many folks who didn't like Trump but voted for him just to stick it to the Democrats and the media.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Chart showing bias by media source. Not surprised Fox is pulling up the rear

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ho...art-2018-02-28
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Old 08-01-2019, 03:45 AM
 
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A lot of people's eyes were opened to the ways of the mainstream media during the Covington incident.

Liars, and the enemy of the people.
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Old 08-01-2019, 04:51 AM
 
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most of the left needs to understand theres a pretty big difference between the "free press" and the "fake news media"


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A lot of people's eyes were opened to the ways of the mainstream media during the Covington incident.

Liars, and the enemy of the people.




The Russia hoax too.
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Old 08-01-2019, 04:54 AM
 
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Many conservatives are no better in that they also cherry-pick things a liberal might say or take it out of context or flat-out lie about what a liberal said.
Do you really think that is the way to defend "the enemy of the people" ? By deflecting and distraction !!!
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