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Old Today, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I live in a 'border town'. We see Canadian medical tourists coming down to the states to get specialist medical treatment that they can not get up in Canada, and we see Americans going up into Canada to buy their cheaper drugs.

It is a two way flow of traffic.
US outbound medical tourism in greater than inbound.
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Old Today, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump wants to allow state Medicaid to legally buy drugs from Canada.

Sounds like a tactic in a bigger/ longer dance to me.

Last edited by middle-aged mom; Today at 03:06 PM..
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Old Today, 03:05 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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By law, VA can and does negotiate drug prices.

By law, states can negotiate drug prices.

In contrast, The Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 established Medicare Part D and specifically prevented Health and Human Services from interfering / negotiating and buying from other countries.

Pharma is one of the largest lobbies at both the Federal and state level.

Some may recall the ad campaign that precipitated this, attempting to persuade the public that foreign medications were not worthy of trust.

Those legislators who advocated for the exclusion publicly rationalized their support by saying the private sector / insurance and their contracted benefit managers could do a better job that the Federal Government.

Some legislators went with the flow to be able to claim Medicare Part D as an accomplishment.

https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-b...-negotiations/
These politicians gave nice excuses but the real reason for most is that they were paid off by the pharmaceutical companies. They got away with it because the main stream media never called them out on their votes.

The media still doesn't either. Senator so and so and Congressman so and so, why don't you do something to reform the 2003 act? The media just not ask those tough questions.
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Old Today, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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There is talk here in Canada of reconvening parliament for an emergency session to prevent this from happening. Canada does not have enough drugs to supply its population and the US. Trump, as is his fashion, did not speak to any Canadian politicans about this or care that it might prevent Canadians from accessing our own medications.

There are a few popular sayings on this forum that may be relevant to this situation: something like "your lack of money (or drugs, in this case) isn't my problem," "make better decisions and you will have better outcomes."

If you think a country of thirty million people has enough affordable drugs to supply a country ten times its size then obviously....you are taking too many of the wrong kinds of drugs.
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Old Today, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I agree with the post above.....There is already a shortage of some drugs in Canada...I have recently had to change my blood pressure medication because of that issue...The US should deal with it's own problems rather than cause problems for Canada.
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Old Today, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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So many Canadians are in need of cancer treatment, when I go in for my radiation treatments the waiting rooms are about half filled with medical tourists.

I dont mind, so long as they do not overwhelm and cancer center completely.

But somehow they do need to get a medical treatment system going up in Canada to handle all of those Canadians.
Still pushing this falsehood.

Your whole premise makes no sense and anyone who has had cancer in Canada will tell you so.
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Old Today, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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The difference is that technically Americans going up into Canada to buy cheaper drugs is a crime. Canadians coming into the US for medical treatment is not.

We've done something similar AND yes.. we were desperate; my infants needed it to survive.

The sad news was when they finally improved health wise, we had about 6 months supply left over. We posted about it and got dozens of other desperate parents asking to buy the remaining supply from us. One fellow drove 200 miles to us to pick it up... felt bad for him so I offered to give it to him for free. He insisted anyways for our trouble.

Freakin sad that is the state of things in the US. US has damn good medical technology and services; if you have money.

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/...-import-laws#1
I read that the Americans coming up here to buy insulin, are legally allowed to buy a 90 day supply.
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Old Today, 04:15 PM
 
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People have been able to buy BigPharma drugs over the counter in Mexico for decades.

It's easy to see how TDS has reached the terminal stage in some Loonies, if they object to Trump trying to lower costs of pharmaceuticals for Americans. Isn't that called shooting yourself in the foot?
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