U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old Today, 11:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
5,196 posts, read 1,425,004 times
Reputation: 3733

Advertisements

Aren't you glad that U.S. law on immigration, protects children from abuse?

-------------------------------------

https://www.theepochtimes.com/illega...s_3019997.html

Illegal Immigrant Bought Baby for $80 in Guatemala to Get Priority Release in US

BY CHARLOTTE CUTHBERTSON
July 30, 2019 Updated: July 31, 2019

WASHINGTON—Children are being rented, bought, recycled, and kidnapped so that single adults, mostly men from Central America, can gain quick release into the United States after crossing the border illegally.

The cost of renting a child varies.

“We’ve had indications … that it could cost anywhere from a few hundred—or even in some cases, less than $100—up to $1,000 or more,” said Kevin McAleenan, acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), during a congressional hearing on July 18.

McAleenan said in one case, a 51-year-old illegal alien had purchased a 6-month-old baby for $80 in Guatemala so that he could easily get into the United States. The man, a Honduran national, confessed to border agents when he was faced with a DNA test.

Homeland Security Investigations, a division of ICE, sent 400 agents to El Paso and Rio Grande Valley, Texas, in mid-April to interview families that Border Patrol suspected were fake. In the last eight weeks, HSI special agents have identified 5,500 fraudulent families—about 15 percent of all cases referred.

“Everybody knows that if they bring a child, they’ll be allowed to stay in the United States—they call it a ‘passport for migration.’ I heard that directly from a gentleman from Huehuetenango, the western-most province of Guatemala.”

He said almost every summary of the cases he has seen mentions the same thing: ‘The subject stated that he made the attempt because he heard in his hometown that anyone traveling to the United States with a child will be released.”
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old Today, 11:07 AM
 
17,223 posts, read 8,723,776 times
Reputation: 9921
Our crappy laws encourage this, but... it’s vaca time for our overworked reps
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
1,623 posts, read 589,208 times
Reputation: 2010
That's really awful.

We need tougher laws at the border, no more asylum. Its just making this problem worse.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:17 AM
 
683 posts, read 226,605 times
Reputation: 2036
It's not true that anyone with a kid gets released. This has nothing to do with US immigration policy and everything to do with gross misinformation and desperation on the part of poor Guatemalans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:19 AM
 
11,600 posts, read 8,495,747 times
Reputation: 7155
And that's why there are investigations on each case and a hearing before a judge.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:21 AM
 
1,231 posts, read 190,873 times
Reputation: 639
We need to get away from Flores Settlement if we want to get rid of child smuggling.


Basically Flores Settlement states that children cannot be detained for more than 20 days in an immigrant detention facility with the adults. That leaves CBP with 2 options


1) separate the family. ICE has parents and their child goes to HHS. We all know how that went last November
2) release the whole family into the interior of US (ATD). This is what we are doing right now and the human smugglers are exploiting it.


or
3) detain the whole family, but that's a violation of Flores Settlement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 11:26 AM
 
1,231 posts, read 190,873 times
Reputation: 639
Quote:
Originally Posted by gus2 View Post
It's not true that anyone with a kid gets released. This has nothing to do with US immigration policy and everything to do with gross misinformation and desperation on the part of poor Guatemalans.
as of right now the policy is anyone with a child gets an ATD. the only exception is fraudulent guardianship. In that case, the 'guardian' or 'parents' detained by ICE and the kid goes to HHS
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 12:19 PM
 
37,181 posts, read 16,492,947 times
Reputation: 10034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboteer View Post
Aren't you glad that U.S. law on immigration, protects children from abuse?

-------------------------------------

https://www.theepochtimes.com/illega...s_3019997.html

Illegal Immigrant Bought Baby for $80 in Guatemala to Get Priority Release in US

BY CHARLOTTE CUTHBERTSON
July 30, 2019 Updated: July 31, 2019

WASHINGTON—Children are being rented, bought, recycled, and kidnapped so that single adults, mostly men from Central America, can gain quick release into the United States after crossing the border illegally.

The cost of renting a child varies.

“We’ve had indications … that it could cost anywhere from a few hundred—or even in some cases, less than $100—up to $1,000 or more,” said Kevin McAleenan, acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), during a congressional hearing on July 18.

McAleenan said in one case, a 51-year-old illegal alien had purchased a 6-month-old baby for $80 in Guatemala so that he could easily get into the United States. The man, a Honduran national, confessed to border agents when he was faced with a DNA test.

Homeland Security Investigations, a division of ICE, sent 400 agents to El Paso and Rio Grande Valley, Texas, in mid-April to interview families that Border Patrol suspected were fake. In the last eight weeks, HSI special agents have identified 5,500 fraudulent families—about 15 percent of all cases referred.

“Everybody knows that if they bring a child, they’ll be allowed to stay in the United States—they call it a ‘passport for migration.’ I heard that directly from a gentleman from Huehuetenango, the western-most province of Guatemala.”

He said almost every summary of the cases he has seen mentions the same thing: ‘The subject stated that he made the attempt because he heard in his hometown that anyone traveling to the United States with a child will be released.”
5,500 fraudulent families and the liberal left cry about the separation of families?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 12:23 PM
 
17,223 posts, read 8,723,776 times
Reputation: 9921
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
5,500 fraudulent families and the liberal left cry about the separation of families?
No doubt. It appears that “families” were separated long before they got here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Today, 12:31 PM
 
4,796 posts, read 944,873 times
Reputation: 1967
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboteer View Post
Aren't you glad that U.S. law on immigration, protects children from abuse?

-------------------------------------

https://www.theepochtimes.com/illega...s_3019997.html

Illegal Immigrant Bought Baby for $80 in Guatemala to Get Priority Release in US

BY CHARLOTTE CUTHBERTSON
July 30, 2019 Updated: July 31, 2019

WASHINGTON—Children are being rented, bought, recycled, and kidnapped so that single adults, mostly men from Central America, can gain quick release into the United States after crossing the border illegally.

The cost of renting a child varies.

“We’ve had indications … that it could cost anywhere from a few hundred—or even in some cases, less than $100—up to $1,000 or more,” said Kevin McAleenan, acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), during a congressional hearing on July 18.

McAleenan said in one case, a 51-year-old illegal alien had purchased a 6-month-old baby for $80 in Guatemala so that he could easily get into the United States. The man, a Honduran national, confessed to border agents when he was faced with a DNA test.

Homeland Security Investigations, a division of ICE, sent 400 agents to El Paso and Rio Grande Valley, Texas, in mid-April to interview families that Border Patrol suspected were fake. In the last eight weeks, HSI special agents have identified 5,500 fraudulent families—about 15 percent of all cases referred.

“Everybody knows that if they bring a child, they’ll be allowed to stay in the United States—they call it a ‘passport for migration.’ I heard that directly from a gentleman from Huehuetenango, the western-most province of Guatemala.”

He said almost every summary of the cases he has seen mentions the same thing: ‘The subject stated that he made the attempt because he heard in his hometown that anyone traveling to the United States with a child will be released.”
Buying a baby to get into this country? Seriously, that is among the lowest of lows that a person can be or do!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top