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Old 07-31-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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To be blunt, it isn't that much of a deterrent. Many people who commit mass shootings often don't value their own lives. They deserve the death penalty, but it isn't as big a deterrent as you might think. Alot of the states with the lowest murder rates don't have the death penalty. Alabama just executed 3 people this year. It doesn't seem to deter the violence in Birmingham, which had a murder rate of 52 murders per 100,000 last year.

The death penalty was alot more common back in the old days. The highest murder rates in the USA were frequently southern states. The murder rate today is actually similar to what it was back in the 1950s/early 1960s. It's just not even distributed. As it was back in the 1950s, the worst murder rates were concentrated in the South. A large number of executions took place in the South.
Well, it has a damn low recidivism rate. Especially when compared to our revolving door, soft on crime "justice" system, that turns violent predators lose time after time. When they once more prey on innocent victims.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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Well, it has a damn low recidivism rate. Especially when compared to our revolving door, soft on crime "justice" system, that turns violent predators lose time after time. When they once more prey on innocent victims.
It sure does have no recidivism. However, the death penalty doesn't seem to deter other people from committing murder. The death penalty takes a murderer out forever. I'm talking about PREVENTION. I'd read the rest of my post if I were you instead of concentrating on that one part.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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And the vast majority of those shootings take place in the ghettos. Not in schools, not in theatres, not in office buildings. They happen in places where gangs are prevalent. Mass shootings refer to shootings of multiple people getting shot in places where you don't expect them to get shot. Stuff like Columbine, the Aurora theatre shooting, Sandy Hook Elementary. Those kind of shootings feature one or two people whose goal is to shoot as many people as they can all at one. These shootings by Black males are not "shoot as many as you can". It's "shoot whatever rival gang members are there" or multiple people getting shot because the shooters are horrible marksmen.
That is not a definition anywhere other than by you.

Please show some reference to this.

Also, where in the USA does a person go and expect to be shot? This is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Trying to shift the facts does not do you nor anyone any good. If you want to solve the problem, stand up straight and accept the facts, not sweep under the rug because it does not fit your agenda.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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That is not a definition anywhere other than by you.

Please show some reference to this.

Also, where in the USA does a person go and expect to be shot? This is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Trying to shift the facts does not do you nor anyone any good. If you want to solve the problem, stand up straight and accept the facts, not sweep under the rug because it does not fit your agenda.
One, that statement was to give you an idea of how the media classifies mass shootings.

Two, read the rest of that post instead of concentrating on that one part. You might get a better idea of what I'm trying to say.

Where in the USA does a person expect to be shot? In dangerous, violent neighborhoods. And alot of people try to stay away from those neighborhoods if they can help it.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Why don't you define the term "mass shooting"?
More than 1 person getting shot at the same event and same time?
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:12 PM
 
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If that's the case, why bother talking about it? What's the point of talking about it if this really isn't care about much?
I said "many" don't care. I did not say no one cares.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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More than 1 person getting shot at the same event and same time?
What about when the police shoot more than one?
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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If that's the case, why bother talking about it? What's the point of talking about it if this really isn't care about much?
My problem with this whole topic is that in the liberal media, Dem politicians, hollywood....it always gets blamed on "someone else"...the criminal justice system, bad cops, racism. But it never gets blamed on the people who are actually pulling the triggers and committing the violent crimes. And the media media never makes the point the greatest threat to African Americans is other AA's. By far. Not even close.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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What about when the police shoot more than one?
When was the last time that happened?
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: California
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I guess the reason why there is more mass hysteria over mass shootings done in 'safe' areas as opposed to crime ridden, gang infested neighborhoods, is because people in general believe in order in this world of ours. That is, good things happen to good people, and bad things only happen to bad people.

So long as people kill each other off in impoverished and dangerous cities and areas, no one really cares. But the minute some mass shooter goes on a rampage in 'sanctuaries' such as work, a movie theater, a supermarket, a public concert, that really strikes fear in people's hearts because it all seems so random. And, again, bad things 'never' happen to 'good' people.

Oddly even though only a couple people were killed, may they Rest In Peace, but the Walmart work shooting yesterday has received very little coverage. The shooter was black and his victims were a black man and a white man. If the shooter was white this story would be blasted all over the place. Plus the shooter is still alive so there’s actually something to work with here instead of a dead guy that can’t be questioned or analyzed.
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