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Old 08-01-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: London
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I'm a mildly bisexual woman because that's how I'm wired, but I *choose* to not act on it and live it because I'm happily married to a man. I still check other women out sometimes though, more than my husband does lol.

I was also talking to a few gay friends about the "choosing to be gay" myth. They all told me that if they could, they'd have been born straight, because life is so much easier for straight people.

So, people don't choose to BE gay, but they can choose to LIVE authentically and live gay.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Not allowing a man to mourn his own father at a funeral?

Man, eff that church. Seriously. There’s no love in a place like that.

My stepson was noticeably gay by the age of 5. It was humorous and painful but oh-so-clear. He didn’t choose a lifestyle at the age of five. He was simply born as gay as Liberace.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Here's a crazy idea, why can't it be BOTH, choice and being born that way, why must people (the super religious and the gay community) say it has to be one or the other?
Here is an even crazier idea. It doesn't matter. Even if it is purely a choice, do you really want the christian crazies legislating what you can and can't do in the bedroom?
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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This is both sad and cruel. It's the guy's father, for goodness sake. But it's a Baptist church and they have their doctrine to prioritize.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Another person who doesn't believe in science. Why am I not surprised?

There have been people who are gay since the beginning of time. It has also been seen in nature in the animal kingdom.

And at this point, who the hell even cares besides Pence who thinks he can convert them?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...homosexuality/
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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It's amazing the OP read that article and this was his takeaway.

No wonder he's made himself scarce.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I’m still trying to figure out why the church gives a damn about who attends a funeral.
It is a christian church. No mercy, no forgiveness. Just like Jesus preached.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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While I'm not an expert on the subject, it stands to reason that if they were able to choose, men in middle eastern countries would pick the lifestyle that did not end by being thrown off the roof of a tall building.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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I'm convinced that the only reason some churches shun gay people is because gay people are unlikely to pump out loads of babies. More babies = more future tithers = $$$
Have to say -- I don't think so.

Churches have their values and live by them.

My husband and I are were living together in our early 20's. Time to get married we could not find a Catholic priest to do it because we were 'living in sin'.

They didn't seem to care that we were going to have babies one day.

Many people -- religious and not, think being gay is disgusting, not natural. Plain and simple.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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So. Then he’s exercising his choice.

What do you want us to do? Be outraged?

If a church won’t allow a funeral there because the dead guy’s son is gay, that just reaffirms my belief in what a fraud the Christian Church is.
I'm still waiting for a gay couple to try and get a same sex marriage ceremony in a Muslim Mosque. Or, like in this case, an openly gay try to have their relative's service in a Muslim Mosque. I got a pretty good idea what the answer and outcome of the request would be, but would like to see if the media blows it up to front page news for years like they did the cake bakery story. I'm betting we'd hear absolutely nothing about the Muslims saying, not No butt F...K! NO!.
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