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Old 08-12-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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Please. Put someone besides Trump in the Whitehouse and it would take 5 minutes to ink deals selling us out to the Chinese just like both sides have been doing for decades.
Perhaps it has all been done wrong for decades. My beef is with people who scream against government handouts and socialism, yet will not hesitate to put their own hands out for a bailout. If you're for less government, then be for less government and that includes having the government bail you out.

I've said many times before, I didn't like that Obama bailed out the financial system in 2008. All we did was kick the can down the road.
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Old 08-12-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Anybody can make a mistake. Our government has been a corporate run government for many years. A lot of people were fed up with it and Trump's lies made him sound like a good alternative. Trump promised to drain the swamp. He did, but then he brought in the worst swamp creatures in the world. Trump gave over a trillion dollars to corps. and big business and pennies for the working class, but soon the working folks will be paying more taxes than in the past. Trump was a last ditch hope who sadly disappointed people throughout the world. There is nothing wrong with making a mistake.
The problem is that many of those who made this mistake refuse to accept facts and are unwilling to admit they were wrong.
This dates back to the Reagan days when he introduced "trickle down economics" that never trickled even one penny.
Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Your choice!
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Old 08-12-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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The biggest issue with this tariff war is President Xi Jinping has been appointed president for life while Trump is up for relection in 16 months. Not a great place to be when negotiating anything.
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Old 08-12-2019, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You have no clue. Try reality sometime.
What a productive and helpful comment.
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Old Today, 03:55 AM
 
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Perhaps it has all been done wrong for decades. My beef is with people who scream against government handouts and socialism, yet will not hesitate to put their own hands out for a bailout. If you're for less government, then be for less government and that includes having the government bail you out.

I've said many times before, I didn't like that Obama bailed out the financial system in 2008. All we did was kick the can down the road.
Or avoided a nation of Hoovervilles.

But I agree with your point about the hypocrisy of those who get on their high horse about government handouts, then then lineup for handouts themselves.
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Old Today, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Or avoided a nation of Hoovervilles.

LA and SF have a big head start on this.
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Old Today, 06:25 AM
 
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I've said many times before, I didn't like that Obama bailed out the financial system in 2008. All we did was kick the can down the road.
It's fine to blame Obama for Tarp, but he did not execute the agreement, it was W. Obama just kept the payments going on a program that had already been 2/3 completed. Still not blameless, I agree, but people always forget that Tarp was W's baby, not Obama's.
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Old Today, 08:12 AM
 
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Anybody can make a mistake. Our government has been a corporate run government for many years. A lot of people were fed up with it and Trump's lies made him sound like a good alternative. Trump promised to drain the swamp. He did, but then he brought in the worst swamp creatures in the world. Trump gave over a trillion dollars to corps. and big business and pennies for the working class, but soon the working folks will be paying more taxes than in the past. Trump was a last ditch hope who sadly disappointed people throughout the world. There is nothing wrong with making a mistake.
The problem is that many of those who made this mistake refuse to accept facts and are unwilling to admit they were wrong.
This dates back to the Reagan days when he introduced "trickle down economics" that never trickled even one penny.
Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Your choice!
You've got real problems if you think lowering the corporate tax rate is giving money away.
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Old Today, 08:14 AM
 
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What a productive and helpful comment.
How are your crops and livestock coming along?
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Old Today, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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You've got real problems if you think lowering the corporate tax rate is giving money away.
It worked really well in stock buy backs. Those that sold their shares when the economy wasn't doing well and their taxes were high, when the tax lowered, they didn't create new jobs, or increase employee wages, but bought back their corporate shares instead. No money give away there, for sure.

It does make the economy look great though, by those who look at dow as an indicator of health.
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