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Old 08-01-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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"End all farm subsidies, abolish the ethanol mandate and allow farmers to trade with whoever and wherever they want" - said no present day politician ever
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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450 farms have closed so far this year in Wisconsin. So the tariffs have had some effect. Thankfully a lot of the farmers around here in the Driftless Area see through Trumps/Republican lies and vote blue.

https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2...-loss-map.html
Your link shows that this is a continuation of what was going on before Trump took office.

I don't see any support for this being due to tariffs or what "some" effect might mean.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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The bulk of the aid goes to the wealthy as usual.


I truly don't understand how farmers can think he is trying to help them. They are voting against their own best interests with him.
Thatís typically the case whatever aid the government sends doesnít go to who it should.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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Thatís typically the case whatever aid the government sends doesnít go to who it should.
Huh? It was apportioned based upon production.

How exactly should the subsidy be applied? Just randomly or do you have something else in mind?
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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American farmer: Trump 'took away all of our markets'

They weren't your markets; and no one "took them away"; you lost them by refusing to adapt to a changing economy.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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American farmer: Trump 'took away all of our markets'

They weren't your markets; and no one "took them away"; you lost them by refusing to adapt to a changing economy.
You mean refusing to adapt to a failed Trump policy. Try to keep up. They HAD the markets before this idiot gave them away in an ill-conceived tariff scheme.
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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The bulk of the aid goes to the wealthy as usual.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1UP28K



I truly don't understand how farmers can think he is trying to help them. They are voting against their own best interests with him.
The bulk of the farms are large so probably the bulk of the money goes to them
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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"End all farm subsidies, abolish the ethanol mandate and allow farmers to trade with whoever and wherever they want" - said no present day politician ever


Brilliant-


That would result in doubling of your food prices and elimination of food stamps (the programs are tied).


Next "solution" please!
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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The White House recently announced that it would be providing an additional $16 billion in aid to American farmers affected by the trade war between the U.S. and China.
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I love how it's called "aid" when it's going to farmers but "welfare" or "handouts" when it's going to urban areas.

Farmers can pretend they're different than the disability drawing welfare recipient in Kentucky or the single mother in urban Memphis but they're not.

More of that wealth redistribution conservatives are always railing against.
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Your link shows that this is a continuation of what was going on before Trump took office.

I don't see any support for this being due to tariffs or what "some" effect might mean.
The government in pouring in billions of dollars in bailouts to keep them in business. We are looking at over $30 billion so far, and who knows how much more unannounced.
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