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Old Yesterday, 06:45 AM
 
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Warren and Gillibrand jumped on their "white leftist female hero platform" last night and claimed the reason that the black community is poor is because of a "history" that the country has yet to make amends for.

The fact is the black community has the highest single motherhood rate, and the highest school dropout rate of all races in the United States.

Those are personal choices, not "institutionalized" racism.

Change my mind.
Okay, look at the average IQ in Africa and America by demographic. That is going to be the biggest factor. Those that are intelligent of any race can thrive unless there is something else holding them back such as a lack of motivation.
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Old Yesterday, 06:53 AM
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Plight of urban black poverty caused by social programs?

Quite frankly, there are systemic institutionalized factors at play that many people selectively choose to ignore; from 200+ years of institutionalized slavery to approximately 200 years of Jim Crow to ongoing housing discrimination, job discrimination, redlining, infiltration of drugs, easy access to guns, mis-education and outright non-education, Unfair criminal justice system that resulted in the mass incarceration for relatively small quantities of drugs, domestic terrorism whereby entire prosperous towns were burned down, etc. etc.

Cyclical inter-generational poverty, lack of affordable housing, lack of education by some members of society, etc. should be a concern of all people.
Most of today's discrimination is based on the present day behavior of those being discriminated against and not with 200 years of this or 400 years of that.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 AM
 
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Nothing racist, but it's funny that it's just a coincidence that the KKK said "love it or leave it", and Trump said "if you don't like it you can leave". It totally COULD be coincidence, and one occurence does not equate to racism, but it's time after time after time with him:

Calling people rats
Like it or leave
Calling them animals
Calling them "fine people"
Failing to call them out for their behavior (until days later when the pressure was too much)
and on
and on
and on....

Even if Trump and his base don't know they are racists, they are. This is not about blaming everything on racism (also a problem), it is about seeing a trend of Trump gleaning support by pandering to people's race-based fears and insecurities. I feel sorry for you if you can't see this. And I feel sorry for society that so many people think anything short of a lynching on the front lawn of their church is fake racism...
"Calling people rats" Are ALL rats black? I have NEVER seen a black rat. I have been called d a rat MANY times and I'm white.
"Calling them animals" ALL people are part of the animal family. People of ALL colors sometimes act like wild animals.
"Calling them "fine people",?
and on
and on
and on....

Even if many blacks don't know they are racists, they are!
As I said, SOME see racism in EVERYTHING!

By your own "reasoning", if you are black and say bad things about Trump and whites, YOU ARE RACIST.

See how it works?
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Old Yesterday, 07:01 AM
 
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Republicans and democrats are not the only issues.

When a black kid and a white kid do the same things, they get treated differently, be it:
Getting pulled by the police
Walking around at night
Entering a store
Applying for a job
Getting paid for the same job
etc.
etc.
etc.
If you live in a high crime black area it stands to reason MORE blacks will be stopped then whites, etc!
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Old Yesterday, 07:06 AM
 
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What exactly is Trump's strategy with all this?
He is the President which includes all these places he rags on weekly.

I get that is makes for a fun time at his rally but there are Republicans that have to run in the suburbs and counties inside and surrounding the places he is trashing. Seems like a scorched earth argument but Trump didn't carry states with enough margin (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and several more) to pizz off entire cities and surrounding suburbs that contain a high number of voters that he needs to swing his way to win. And congressman in surrounding counties attached to major cities in many states are dropping like flies, look how Texas is changing.

Again it may go well for his base but they are going to vote for him regardless. He won Michigan by 10,000 votes and its known that Black turnout in 2016 was down in Wayne County (Detroit, a place he just trashed again) by 70,000 votes. Is he attempting to motivate those 70,000 to show up and vote against him?

Does Trump really want to be President past 2020?
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Old Yesterday, 07:48 AM
 
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What exactly is Trump's strategy with all this?
What could it possibly be? Not just for Trump, but for any President? How does the office itself "solve" the myriad problems of urban blacks?

A black guy was in that office from 2008-2016, and a black guy has for 20 years represented the city that Trump is "ragging on" weekly, and all that has happened to that particular urban black area in all that time is that it has gotten worse. In fact, under the long time (sometimes more than 50 years) governance of one black chief executive, federal representative and/or predominatly black assembly/council...many of these urban black areas have gotten worse.

So I'll ask again, given the remarkable level of failure of ANY politician where "solving" the problem of urban black poverty is concerned - how does the specific office of President of the United States "solve" these problems, when no other office or group of offices at any level of government has done so thus far? And beyond that, if the current President is a racist, bougie, white devil who wouldn't get more than 5% of the black vote if he literally paid people $500 each for their vote...what would be his motivation to undertake a "solution" even if that office was capable of doing so?

Obama never solved any of these problems, and I can assume he was friendlier to urban blacks than Trump, yes? So how/why is Trump now the "solution?"

Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old Yesterday, 07:48 AM
 
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Okay, look at the average IQ in Africa and America by demographic. That is going to be the biggest factor. Those that are intelligent of any race can thrive unless there is something else holding them back such as a lack of motivation.

Ok...here is a case study of a poster who believes that blacks, in general, have inferior brains than whites. Of course....don't call that "racism" on his part. Rather, he is just siting known fact. Not racism, but rather, "realism" if you let him tell it.



You ask people to explain their observations....that is when there racism is clear.
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Old Yesterday, 07:53 AM
 
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Most of today's discrimination is based on the present day behavior of those being discriminated against and not with 200 years of this or 400 years of that.

Most of blacks present day behavior, to the degree that it is different from whites, is rooted in 200 years of this and 400 years of that. Note that you do not see African immigrants with many of those behaviors....do you? That is because the behavior was "made in America" as a consequence of a history of white racism and discrimination.



It is basically perpetual racism if whites are going to justify their current attitude about blacks based upon reactions created from past racism that whites don't like. One generation of whites defecates on blacks then the next generation don't like blacks because of the smell....and then urinates on them because of the smell. I guess the next generation will be spitting on blacks because of the smell of urine.
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 AM
 
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If you live in a high crime black area it stands to reason MORE blacks will be stopped then whites, etc!
the most dangerous places for anyone to go.....are inner city black ghettos

...but if you call them on it....you're racist

the only way it's racist...is saying that's black culture

It's not all black culture....but it is defiantly that black culture
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Old Yesterday, 08:38 AM
 
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the most dangerous places for anyone to go.....are inner city black ghettos

...but if you call them on it....you're racist

the only way it's racist...is saying that's black culture

It's not all black culture....but it is defiantly that black culture
It's the culture of intense, concentrated poverty. You find the same behavior in slums all over the world. From Latin America to Europe and Asia.
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