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Old Yesterday, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Culture is LEARNED and the culture of blacks in America IS NOT the culture of blacks in Africa or the culture blacks came here with. Blacks don't have their surnames from Africa, blacks don't have their religions from Africa, blacks don't have their customs from Africa, blacks don't have their diet from Africa, etc, etc. What blacks have was LEARNED and acquired from being around whites for over 300 years. You showed us your bad side (assume that is your bad side and not simply the way you are) and that is what we picked up on. I mean....we were not calling ourselves the N word in Africa. We learned to call ourselves that, unfortunately, because that is what whites were calling us.



Culture can and has been impacted by white racism.
When blacks use the word "mosquito" and "bisque" does that mean youre racists?


You blanket blacks into African decent, well, for that matter I'm African, because I believe that's where the cradle of man was. Some blacks came from Asia, some from Barbados, even more from Chile, some lighter pigmented "blacks" came from Australia, some from India, even some from Greenland. The fact that some choose not to assimilate into the country that they live in is a personal choice.

If you don't like the culture you associate with, go start your own culture or find one that you do like, such as the culture of not making excuses...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vuetQSwFW8

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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM
 
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I guess all the very successful black people....are just not black enough..and didn't embrace the "black culture"

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Culture is LEARNED and the culture of blacks in America IS NOT the culture of blacks in Africa or the culture blacks came here with. Blacks don't have their surnames from Africa, blacks don't have their religions from Africa, blacks don't have their customs from Africa, blacks don't have their diet from Africa, etc, etc. What blacks have was LEARNED and acquired from being around whites for over 300 years. You showed us your bad side (assume that is your bad side and not simply the way you are) and that is what we picked up on. I mean....we were not calling ourselves the N word in Africa. We learned to call ourselves that, unfortunately, because that is what whites were calling us.



Culture can and has been impacted by white racism.
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Old Yesterday, 01:06 PM
 
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Take the "highest rate of single mothers" statistic in the proper context. WHY does the urban black community have a higher rate of single mothers than any other demographic? Past that, what can possibly explain the shift in the black family from a higher marriage and wedded childbirth rate than all other demographics at one point in the not so distant past, to the current polar opposite of the worst rate among all other demographics? Is the some historical inflection point that can possibly explain the WHY of this particular cultural issue?

I mean, slavery ended 156 years ago, so that legacy alone cannot explain what shifted from the very family oriented black demographic to this new single mother, absentee father, children raised on the street phenomenon. What could have possibly happened in the last oh...70 years that could give us a clue as to why the all black Harlem city schools went from 2nd best in the 5 Burroughs to among the worst as of today.

What was the pox, pray tell, that fell upon the black demographic's house, such that it actually resembles a plague virus? Hmm...what could it be...?
Slavery may have been outlawed in 1865 but I did read, and there is accounts to support it, that plantation-type slavery continued even into the early 1960s.
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Old Yesterday, 01:11 PM
 
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What's your explanation for the difference between Europe and Africa? I know the truth is difficult to accept but it's still the truth.

Of course MY explanation has nothing to do with genetics and inner nature.....hence NOT RACIST. Your explanation, on the other hand, is founded in the belief in genetic differences accounting for racial outcome difference. That, my friend, is called "racism". However....I am sure you will see it as YET ANOTHER false claim of racism that makes the word now meaningless.
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Old Yesterday, 01:18 PM
 
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I guess all the very successful black people....are just not black enough..and didn't embrace the "black culture"

That is obviously not an intelligent response. It's obfuscation and deflection. I guess the soldier who went to war and made it back home in sound mind and body...."really did not go to war". That is the common deflection of people seeking to not face truth. Ergo, "why did some people make it? If some people made it....this makes those who did not at fault and not their circumstance". I have heard that a thousand times....said in different ways. If some black people have made it......then it proves the circumstance of racism is not responsible for many other blacks not making it.
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Old Yesterday, 01:24 PM
 
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When blacks use the word "mosquito" and "bisque" does that mean youre racists?


You blanket blacks into African decent, well, for that matter I'm African, because I believe that's where the cradle of man was. Some blacks came from Asia, some from Barbados, even more from Chile, some lighter pigmented "blacks" came from Australia, some from India, even some from Greenland. The fact that some choose not to assimilate into the country that they live in is a personal choice.

If you don't like the culture you associate with, go start your own culture or find one that you do like, such as the culture of not making excuses...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vuetQSwFW8

I was just in Charleston, SC. I went to the "old slave market", the indoor venue where they sold slave once they outlawed the outdoor market. It is now a Museum. Walked in interested to take the tour when I noticed the staff was all white. I walked right back out.



I can see why you live there.
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Old Yesterday, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Slavery may have been outlawed in 1865 but I did read, and there is accounts to support it, that plantation-type slavery continued even into the early 1960s.
Where'd you read that at? Growing up in the south, and having ancestors who owned slaves, I'm not aware of any legal slavery going on after the Civil War. It took decades for the freed slaves to leave the land so to speak, because a) they didn't have jobs b) Jim Crow laws were way rougher on them than their former employers c) it was much easier to stay put and go to work for pay/food, most were given land to stay put and work on the plantations. Slavery as we know it historically up until the 1960's I'd have to have proof, more than just an isolated example.

The Vice article you're probably referring to is an isolated example where a family was in debt to their captors. Right or wrong, it's no different that a bail bondsman, paycheck loan or title loan company in my opinion.

As the saying goes, The Borrower is Slave to The Lender. That goes for anyone, regardless of color.

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Old Yesterday, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I was just in Charleston, SC. I went to the "old slave market", the indoor venue where they sold slave once they outlawed the outdoor market. It is now a Museum. Walked in interested to take the tour when I noticed the staff was all white. I walked right back out.



I can see why you live there.
I live here because I was raised here, and although I've traveled the world, Charleston has a lot to offer and it's lovely waterways are a big draw for me. Race, doesn't figure into my decision to live here or anywhere. In fact, I never see things like all white staffs, it just doesn't show up in my day-to-day living. I see Americans, friends, and neighbors.

The "old slave market" is a tourist attraction as is the old jail cells, the courthouse, Fort Sumter, the beaches, etc. What would be different about the historical facts of the old slave market if the staff was all a darker pigment?
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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That is obviously not an intelligent response. It's obfuscation and deflection. I guess the soldier who went to war and made it back home in sound mind and body...."really did not go to war". That is the common deflection of people seeking to not face truth. Ergo, "why did some people make it? If some people made it....this makes those who did not at fault and not their circumstance". I have heard that a thousand times....said in different ways. If some black people have made it......then it proves the circumstance of racism is not responsible for many other blacks not making it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Until you stop making excuses, you'll always be your own victim.
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Old Yesterday, 01:55 PM
 
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You sound like you're making excuses for yourself....

Can't have it both ways....either there's a black ghetto culture..or there's not

...obviously there's a lot of successful black people..they are everywhere...and are not propping themselves up with some made up fabricated "culture"


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That is obviously not an intelligent response. It's obfuscation and deflection. I guess the soldier who went to war and made it back home in sound mind and body...."really did not go to war". That is the common deflection of people seeking to not face truth. Ergo, "why did some people make it? If some people made it....this makes those who did not at fault and not their circumstance". I have heard that a thousand times....said in different ways. If some black people have made it......then it proves the circumstance of racism is not responsible for many other blacks not making it.
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