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Old 08-03-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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China is our enemy.

In fact, they are basically the enemy of the whole world and that includes the environment itself.
Who is "us"? They sure aren't my enemy. Just because the paranoid, imperialist US government and its brainwashed followers say it is so, doesn't mean it is.

Per-capita (the only fair measure) the Chinese are much less of a problem for the environment than US Americans, Canadians, Australians and virtually all European countries are. Check the ranking here and click on "Ecological footprint per person" (the selector in the middle):
https://data.footprintnetwork.org/#/?/

Not to mention that China is already very active in green tech.
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Old Today, 01:54 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Winning Again.
https://www.expressnews.com/business...r-14117769.php
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In the last decade, the Corpus Christi region has announced more than $50 billion in major capital projects. Investments similar to Steel Dynamics’ included Voestalpine’s $1.3 billion hot briquette iron facility, TPCO America’s $1 billion steel pipe rolling facility, Cheneire Energy’s $15 billion Corpus Christi liquid natural gas export facility and Gulf Coast Venture’s planned $10 billion petrochemicals facility in Portland.

The Steel Dynamics mill will have an annual production capacity of about 3 million tons of steel for energy, automotive, construction and appliance manufacturers.

The company said the plant will serve three regional markets: Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Louisiana; Northern and Mid-Central Mexico and the U.S. West Coast. The regions consume as much as 28 million tons of flat roll steel annually, Millett said, much of it imported through the port of Houston.
Thanks to Trump, and his faith in American Manufacturing.
Thanks should go to all of those in Texas too, who helped to make this possible.
And Thanks to Coal, that gives Texas affordable electricity,
unlike the so called "renewable" crap that we have to subsidize.
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Old Today, 02:55 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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With basic products like steel I think it should be produced where it is needed, not shipped all around the world. There already is too much steel, anyway. Interesting data on US steel imports. Brazil is the number one supplier, who would have guessed. And China is not even in the top 10.
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Old Today, 04:05 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Don't buy Chinese junk.

No tariffs.

Problem solved.
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That view is so outdated. A lot of Chinese products are just as good as Western, Korean or Japanese ones these days.
If I were to buy a smartphone, it would likely be a Huawei, frankly.

The funny thing is that some time ago in a rare moment of sincerity, Trump actually admitted what this is all about, trying to keep China from overtaking the US.
Unfortunately, that is not true.
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Old Today, 06:03 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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With basic products like steel I think it should be produced where it is needed, not shipped all around the world. There already is too much steel, anyway. Interesting data on US steel imports. Brazil is the number one supplier, who would have guessed. And China is not even in the top 10.
Actually, the steel tariffs were designed to impact mostly Russia, Germany, and Turkey, but the reasoning isn't straightforward, nor it is the same reason for each of the countries. Germany, for instance is buying Russian gas, to produce steel that they sell to the US. Less steel, less dependence on Russian gas. (I am still oversimplifying, but it gets complicated, quickly.)
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