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Old 08-04-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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My recollection of Reagan is somewhat limited because I was a teenager in the 80s and not really paying much attention to politics yet.

To my knowledge, Reagan seems to have concentrated mostly on foreign policy. I think he tended to pay less attention to the domestic side of things, including black issues. When his administration did concentrate on domestic affairs it was on things like trying to grow the economy and reduce inflation, things that effect all Americans not just blacks. High inflation was a big issue in the early 80s.

Reagan did promote an African American, General Colin Powell, as his National Security Advisor. He also had the first Hispanic to serve in the Cabinet, Lauro Cavazos as the US Secretary of Education. He also had several women in positions of power but otherwise the majority of the government was white males.
My honest opinion about Reagan is that he had a "change of heart" during his presidency and tried to help minorities. The 80s were a "boom time" for jobs and industrial growth. Many minorities were able to feel the success. I read a book by one of the few black doctors of the mid 1900s who was trained at Howard. The segregation he described was horrifying and couldn't even be conceptualized today. But as the doctor became elderly in the 1980s Reagan met him and honored his work. So, to me that is an example of "change of heart" during his presidency.

That tape from 1971 likely was the true time snippet of his bigotry when he was younger. But it seems like the Presidency put his mindset in a more positive perspective in the case of African Americans and Latin Americans.

However, he had a similar bad choice of words in regards to Native Americans around the end of his 2nd term. It was very controversial at the time. He said "we humored them in letting them keep their culture" which got a lot of criticism. But still, in the big picture he did help a lot of minorities economically in the 1980s. That momentum crashed in 1991 which hurt the Sr. Bush's chances of a 2nd term.

The President who should be blamed for the failure of affirmative action is Nixon. He is the one who came up with quotas that many modern Republics despise. Ironically, it started within Nixon's Administration. Nixon had genuine, racist motives to promote affirmative action. Ostensibly, it was a policy to help the inner cities. But the the ulterio motive was racist - a form of social control during the era of protests and the Civil Rights Movement.
https://slate.com/human-interest/201...t-working.html
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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not sure how anybody refers to Slate as a credible source.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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How can anyone defend Reagan’s support of apartheid South Africa? Hell, his veto on SA sanctions was overturned by the Senate, with even Mitch McConnell voting to sanction the apartheid regime?
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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not sure how anybody refers to Slate as a credible source.
Instead of Ad Hominem attacks...tells what is wrong/incorrect about Slate's account of the Reagan legacy.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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Experts on Reagan speak on the Nixon tapes.

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Old 08-14-2019, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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who knows, maybe. but im willing to bet every president we've ever had has made 'racist' comments at some point however LBJ tops them all.

Could be true, but no modern US POTUS can match his record for the advancement of civil rights legislation.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Reagan won 49 states in 1984 and 525 electoral votes. Obviously he had little concern about "race" in his policies because it ranked like 0 on the list of things that people were concerned about. And the things you mentioned were not on the minds of people of that time, obviously. It's an issue now because today's leftists have a meme to push and making out Reagan to be a racist, which he wasn't, is simply part of that.
It had to have mattered to black people and fair-minded whites and others. Those things and others certainly mattered to me when I voted for Mondale in 1984.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:11 PM
 
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Reagan won 49 states in 1984 and 525 electoral votes. Obviously he had little concern about "race" in his policies because it ranked like 0 on the list of things that people were concerned about. And the things you mentioned were not on the minds of people of that time, obviously. It's an issue now because today's leftists have a meme to push and making out Reagan to be a racist, which he wasn't, is simply part of that.
Agree and 30 years of open borders have really divided America. We'll never have an election with such a lopsided victory and mandate again, especially not for a Republican .
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Old Yesterday, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How much did the racial attitude expressed by Ronald Reagan in these tapes shape any of his policies towards Africans and Black people in general?


Why believe anything that came out of that liars mouth anyway? The fake conservative grew government, spending, and taxes.
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Old Yesterday, 08:51 PM
 
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How can anyone defend Reaganís support of apartheid South Africa? Hell, his veto on SA sanctions was overturned by the Senate, with even Mitch McConnell voting to sanction the apartheid regime?
I know why some people would defend Reagan's support of the then-apartheid regime. There are individuals who view Black people are inferior and see the apartheid regime from this perspective: "Only Whites should have a say, Blacks should just submit because they are inferior and incapable". Some people really are just that bigoted.
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