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Old Today, 06:50 AM
 
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We humans can do alot of damage. The climate is just an algorithm, and when nunbers are added to an algorithm, it is altered. Nothing mystical about it. Billions of us. In the same way a bacterium can alter the health of a giant animal, so could we, alter our environment.
The climate is an algorithm?

4.5 billion years of earth.

5 billion species of life have existed.

Over, well over, 99% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct.

I'm a lowly government-educated fool but by my calculations this deal doesn't appear as if it will end well.
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I don't know what's funnier. "scientist" or "CNN."
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Old Today, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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That's pretty vague. What do you want me to do, specifically? And keep the gun in your holster when you answer.
They want your money and your freedoms taken from you and me, that is all....Venezuela is the future of following the Democrats.

No change in the temperature of the globe or rate of ice melt in Greenland would occur if the USA ceased to exist and became a gigantic forest.
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Old Today, 06:56 AM
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They want your money and your freedoms taken from you and me, that is all....Venezuela is the future of following the Democrats.

No change in the temperature of the globe or rate of ice melt in Greenland would occur if the USA ceased to exist and became a gigantic forest.
If the US became a giant empty forest, China would harvest it using machinery built to very lax emission standards.
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Old Today, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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If the US became a giant empty forest, China would harvest it using machinery built to very lax emission standards.
True but even that won't affect the globe temperature or the rate of ice melt in Greenland.

The Chinese would also harvest the oil using lax safety and environmental standards as well.
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Old Today, 07:01 AM
 
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Haha, yep, us crafty lefties have even gone so far as to make this past June and July the hottest in recorded history. Do we have no shame !
Where?
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Old Today, 07:15 AM
 
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Ok, how about this for an incentive.......what if we try to leave this little planet of ours in a little better shape than we found it, for the sake of our kids and their kids ?
Define "better shape"?

Why climate change is good for the world

In the Middle Ages, the average temps in Greenland were enough to not just grow grains, but to grow in enough excess to raise livestock. As the planet got cooler, that stopped being possible. If you farmed grain and/or raised livestock on Greenland back then, which was better - warmer or colder planet?

As the linked article points out, green plant life depends on a gas that comprises 0.04% of the air around us, and increases in the amount of that gas in the air are PROVEN to benefit the growth, health and resiliency of green plant life...you know, that stuff that virtually every food chain in nature depends on. If you are part of a food chain that depends on plant life (and you are), more CO2 is better, so is more heat that prevents early freezes, late thaws, cold snaps, etc which destroy millions of hectares of farmable crops when they happen.

You have to do better at defining "better shape" because I remain unconvinced that a colder, less_friendly_to_plant_life Earth is "better."
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Old Today, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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If global warming is this dire a threat, why is Google holding a big party/conference for a bunch of rich celebrities arriving on over 100 private jets(the most poluting way to travel). Why arent they selling their mansions, or their beach front property?

I should add that the summer arctic sea ice is about where its been for the past few years. (Remember when algore said it would disappear by this time)

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Old Today, 07:18 AM
 
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If global warming is this dire a threat, why is Google holding a big party/conference for a bunch of rich celebrities arriving on over 100 private jets(the most poluting way to travel). Why arent they selling their mansions, or their beach front property?
Its a great theme for a party you gotta admit
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Old Today, 07:18 AM
 
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Define "better shape"?

Why climate change is good for the world

In the Middle Ages, the average temps in Greenland were enough to not just grow grains, but to grow in enough excess to raise livestock. As the planet got cooler, that stopped being possible. If you farmed grain and/or raised livestock on Greenland back then, which was better - warmer or colder planet?

As the linked article points out, green plant life depends on a gas that comprises 0.04% of the air around us, and increases in the amount of that gas in the air are PROVEN to benefit the growth, health and resiliency of green plant life...you know, that stuff that virtually every food chain in nature depends on. If you are part of a food chain that depends on plant life (and you are), more CO2 is better, so is more heat that prevents early freezes, late thaws, cold snaps, etc which destroy millions of hectares of farmable crops when they happen.

You have to do better at defining "better shape" because I remain unconvinced that a colder, less_friendly_to_plant_life Earth is "better."
Me too, our food supplies are greater with higher temps...so I drive my Hellcat around and listen to that supercharger whine primarily to heat the planet up just enough to grow more food.
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