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Old 08-02-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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I disagree. Obama got them tons of retraining programs but most turned them down. What other parts of the country have been offered such spoon-fed education opportunities at the cost of the taxpayer?

"Despite broad consensus about coalís bleak future, a years-long effort to diversify the economy of this hard-hit region away from mining is stumbling, with Obama-era jobs retraining classes undersubscribed and future programs at risk under President Donald Trumpís proposed 2018 budget."

Awaiting Trump's coal comeback, miners reject retraining
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1D14G0
They made mistakes.

Let's not go after them.

Clinton's message in the last election wasn't clear and did not sound supportive enough. It just didn't. Trump came in and made some big promises.

So now -- they know.

Hope the remember next November.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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They made mistakes.

Let's not go after them.

Clinton's message in the last election wasn't clear and did not sound supportive enough. It just didn't. Trump came in and made some big promises.

So now -- they know.

Hope the remember next November.
Yeah she gave up a perfect sound bite there for Trump when she said they were going to put a lot of coal miners out of business. Is all he had to do was lob off the part about bringing economic opp in because...were going to put a lot of coal miners out of business.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Well their choice was the regime that was shutting down the coal industry versus hope from Trump.

Hopefully Trump does go and address their concerns and has a plan for their future.

I think their energy source is needed with more and more people slurping up energy usage.

The fact of the matter is half of the country WANTS to put them out of business. Maybe Trump just needs to say that plainly.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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There's a big future in installing solar panels.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1QV0GI

Zero risk of black lung disease. Some travel may be required.

Now if 10% of that $350 billion in subsidies given to the coal, oil, and gas industry were added to the just $100 billion for renewables, the business would really take off.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rgy-transition
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:14 PM
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They made mistakes.

Let's not go after them.

Clinton's message in the last election wasn't clear and did not sound supportive enough. It just didn't. Trump came in and made some big promises.

So now -- they know.

Hope the remember next November.
They won't. And that's why there are where they are, in the circumstances they're in. And it's why so many of them chase after Disability if they can find a way to get it.

In Hale County, Alabama, nearly 1 in 4 working-age adults is on disability.[2] On the day government checks come in every month, banks stay open late, Main Street fills up with cars, and anybody looking to unload an old TV or armchair has a yard sale.

Sonny Ryan, a retired judge in town, didn't hear disability cases in his courtroom. But the subject came up often. He described one exchange he had with a man who was on disability but looked healthy.

"Just out of curiosity, what is your disability?" the judge asked from the bench.
"I have high blood pressure," the man said.
"So do I," the judge said. "What else?"
"I have diabetes."
"So do I."


http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:15 PM
 
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As long as Trump pushes that it’s “us against them”, “they’re against coal”, plus the culture war, the bulk of the miners will continue to follow him, come Hell or High Water.

Sad but True.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:31 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Well their choice was the regime that was shutting down the coal industry versus hope from Trump.

Hopefully Trump does go and address their concerns and has a plan for their future.

I think their energy source is needed with more and more people slurping up energy usage.

The fact of the matter is half of the country WANTS to put them out of business. Maybe Trump just needs to say that plainly.
You still believe Trump cares about anyone but Trump?

PS. Did you start a gofundme for Epstein after the poor guy got "thrown under the bus?"
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I just hope these voters remember the lie.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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Coal miners laid off & protesting back pay are calling for Trump to show his face. (their words not mine).

What do these guys do? Where do they go? And it seems that the state Labor folks may have not demanded the payroll bond to protect the wages of these guys.

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...in/1879761001/

Coal is in trouble. it just is. There needs to be a different strategy for these folks. I don't know what it is right now but it isn't in coal.
They flood Kentucky for the Aluminum business jobs that also will never materialize.
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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Hmm. This is about a mismanaged mine that went bankrupt.

Fascinating how we now have the 3rd topic created where it's claimed that Trump broke his promises on coal. This because some MSM hack said it.

Big fail by the OP.


But hey, Democrats should be happy. They told the coal miners they wanted them ALL to lose their jobs.
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