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View Poll Results: Do you prefer Obama-like positions or AOC-like positions?
Obama / Moderates 31 52.54%
AOC / Progressives 16 27.12%
I'm a Republican that just wants to vote 12 20.34%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Yesterday, 09:32 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Obama was center/left. But more than that he was a pragmatist. And he warned of the left end of the Democratic party forming a circular firing squad. Now we're seeing it. Biden will be wise to emphasize his 8 years as Obama's wingman.
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Old Yesterday, 09:34 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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What's the point of electing moderate Democrats if all they do is perpetuate the status quo? Look at Biden's healthcare plan: a $750 bil band-aid on Obamacare. All that does is tinker around the edges. You'll continue to have millions of people with crappy insurance, like $8,000 max out of pocket insurance with high copays, that forces people to choose between healthcare and bankruptcy.

The only thing Joe Biden offers is four years of Not Trump. That's it. No meaningful progress on any major issues.
Four years of "Not Trump" is infinitely better than four more years of Trump, which is what the "progressive" wing of the Democratic party will give us.
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Old Yesterday, 09:43 AM
 
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Four years of "Not Trump" is infinitely better than four more years of Trump, which is what the "progressive" wing of the Democratic party will give us.
I respect your opinion but I disagree. Trump wants to run against "Sleepy Joe" because he's the easiest candidate for Trump to beat. We ran a centrist named Hillary and Trump beat her. Her mushy middle of the road positions did not excite younger voters or hardly anyone else for that matter.

The way to beat Trump is with a progressive like Warren, Sanders or Harris who can articulate a strong clear pro-middle class agenda of universal healthcare, affordable college and living wages. That's how you excite the youth vote to come out in droves. Sanders beats Trump by 6 points in recent polls.
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Old Yesterday, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Was there really a difference in Bush & Obama in the end?
I don't know, Obama was able to make the Bush tax cuts for the very wealthy permanent, something Bush himself couldn't even do.
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Old Yesterday, 09:48 AM
 
Location: US
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Four years of "Not Trump" is infinitely better than four more years of Trump, which is what the "progressive" wing of the Democratic party will give us.

How so and please be objective in your answer, show me you actually have a brain instead of giving the typical CNN points... racist, liar, meanie doo doo head, think important issues on the economy, immigration, healthcare, energy independence, etc.


Biden would be fine as president, I'd prefer Trump, but Biden wouldn't guarantee the next recession like the other candidates would...
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Old Yesterday, 09:49 AM
 
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Obama was center/left. But more than that he was a pragmatist. And he warned of the left end of the Democratic party forming a circular firing squad. Now we're seeing it. Biden will be wise to emphasize his 8 years as Obama's wingman.

Biden has gone more left this election to catch up with the other candidates. However, this recent debate he seemed to stand his ground more instead of going far left to appeal to AOC and her minions. I hope the Biden of 2008, will be the Biden of 2020.
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Old Yesterday, 10:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No President will have policy that will meet everyone's expectations but Obama hit the mark on most, got us out of a financial crisis while inheriting a war and took out Bin Laden.

AOC is pushing her own agenda without looking outside the district that elected her.
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Old Yesterday, 10:24 AM
 
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No President will have policy that will meet everyone's expectations but Obama hit the mark on most, got us out of a financial crisis while inheriting a war and took out Bin Laden.

AOC is pushing her own agenda without looking outside the district that elected her.

I just don't understand why Pelosi and most of the candidates are trying to appeal to AOC, aren't most of her supporters like 18 years old and only makeup a small part of Democratic voters? It's making me question polling.
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Old Yesterday, 10:26 AM
 
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I find it interesting that Obama is now considered a moderate. I think he was responsible for the radical shift to the left in the party. More seats were lost under him nationwide than probably anytime in history because of his radical agenda. Funny that now he is out of favor with the party. I personally love seeing liberals eat their own.
Democrats took back the house campaigning as progressives.
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Old Yesterday, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Watching the debates was a disappointment for this liberal as attacking Obama and each other is not a winning strategy and if continued it will give trump the win. IMO the candidates should lay out thier plans if they achieve the Presidency and then let the people vote accordingly,thinking you are winning by trashing your running mate is the way trump works and has been quite successful for the man but id like to think Democrats are a different breed than trump and his zombie base.
Exactly.

I think AOC is very interesting, and I look forward to watching her grow into her job. She's very bright. But I want the D candidate to WIN, and in order to do that, s/he can't scare the horses. And AOC does scare the horses.

And on a more personal note, I think Obama had a ton of **** rained on him, some that he deserved, and a lot more that he didn't. He sure doesn't deserve to be trashed now.
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