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Old Yesterday, 09:20 AM
 
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Probably in worse shape...
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Old Yesterday, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Hard to say for Chicago. The core of Chicago and the wealthy areas (from downtown to many parts of the Northside) have continued to boom with development, major corporations, tourism, more high wealth individuals, etc.

The south and the west sides have declined, along with manufacturing. Basically, Chicago turned into more of a have/have nots like the country in general. If Republicans ran Chicago, not sure....maybe more balanced??? Who knows.....
55 million overnight visitors to Chicago last year. They spend enormous sums on lodging, dining, shopping and entertainment. They have no reason to venture into the rough neighborhoods where it should be assumed everyone is carrying, legal or otherwise.

1.5 million +/- people commute to the city for work. Many large employers have abandoned their sprawling suburban office campuses and relocated to the city. They have done so to attract and retain professional millennial talent.

Neighborhood gentrification is huge.

In contrast, those leaving the city tend to leave the ghettos and tend to move to southern states. School enrollment in the roughest areas has substantially declined, causing school closures/ consolidation.

I am unaware of anything a Republican mayor/ counsel would do differently that would make a difference.

Most of the homicides that occur in Chicago involves at least one person affiliated with a gang. Most homicides donít get resolved because people protect their family members or fear retribution.
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Old Yesterday, 09:21 AM
 
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I think the only difference we would see is that Chicago wouldn't be a sanctuary city.
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Old Yesterday, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Chicago has tolerated criminals and crooked cops since prohibition days.

If the mommas and grandmas haven't figured out how to stop it by now, they never will.
MSNBC did a town-hall meeting in Chicago a few years ago. The audience was packed with family members of victims of homicide and more than a few activists.

There was a woman who claimed to have lost 7 family members to gun violence. I saw a woman whose family members were affiliated with gangs.

The activists demanded investment in their communities. They wanted hotel, restaurant and entertainment venue jobs in their neighborhoods. Guess they never heard of public transportation which is how most people commute to work in Chicago.

They wanted programs for kids to get them off the streets. Canít argue with this. At the same time, parents have a shared obligation to keep their kids safe. When the only male adults a kid knows are or were in prison, often for a violent crime, it has an impact.

Some blamed the schools. School performance is a reflection of the student body.

Too much policing and not enough policing. Too many cameras. Not enough cameras.

The distrust of Police was palatable.

On the flip side, some in the audience complained about gentrification and the lack of affordable housing.

Whole lot of blame throwing.

The new mayor is a black woman, a lawyer, who happens to be married to a white woman who is a full time parent to their adopted daughter. She came from an intact 2 parent home of modest means in Ohio and excelled in school. She has as much in common with hood rat as the man in the moon.

Can she put a dent in the homicide rate?
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Old Yesterday, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I think the only difference we would see is that Chicago wouldn't be a sanctuary city.
Would that make a difference in terms of the homicide rate?

Most homicides are black on black crimes in 5/25 Police Districts.
Most homicides involves at least one person affiliated with a black gang.
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Old Yesterday, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No where in the united states was the decline as great as it was in NY. You don't know what you are talking about. I will say again there are many factors as to why crime declined however the biggest contributing factor was NYPD were finally allowed to do their jobs.
Giuliani has been out of office for 18 years.

The strategies used in NYC today have substantially evolved since Giuliani who was replaced with an Independent and then a Democrat.

Garry McCarthy worked closely with Giuliani. He was eventually recruited by then mayor Cory Booker to work Newark. Violent crime substantially declined.

He was then recruited by Chicago. Violent crime appeared to decline. “Allowing CPD to do their jobs” was the downfall. The number and values of financial settlements for CPD behaviors started to soar. Then media uncovered CPD had been fudging the numbers. And then a CPD officer shot Laquan McDonald 16 x and there was a massive police cover up, which ended his career.

That he subsequently tried to run for mayor did not go over well.

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Old Yesterday, 10:16 AM
 
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Some studies haves shown getting the lead out of kids bodies had a lot to do with it. It will be interesting to see the crime rate in Flint when those babies- pre schoolers hit middle school.
Some say the crack epidemic ran its course.

Some say Roe v Wade substantially reduced the population of teens/ young adults in the latter 90ís, born to people not up to the task of parenting.

My personal favorite explanation is that the percentage of the population practicing Transendental Meditation peaked in the latter half of the 90ís. This is not to say that giving people skills ( as opposed to substances) to calm the inner turmoil does not have a positive impact.
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Old Yesterday, 10:38 AM
 
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Looking or giving handouts ? Show us the democrat politician that can match Ken Langone !!!
Just one of the republicans democrats want to demonize and punish for success !!!

Home Depotís Ken Langone to Bernie Sanders: How much have you given to charity?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business...mp=hp1s15,hp1s

Langone donated $100 million in August 2018 to New York University to support free tuition for medical students.
Trump DONATES his ENTIRE salary to charity.


Considering how many "rich" democrats there are in Congress, what haven't ANY of them done the same?
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Old Yesterday, 10:39 AM
 
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Not a lick different. In fact, Republicans ran a lot of places......big cities like Philadelphia just when they were turning bad (not due to much except white flight).....

1884-1948 ALL Republican mayors in Philly.

La Guardia in NYC for a dozen years.......

No difference. Not a lick. In MA. we have a GOP Gov. - we also had Romney, yet we are the most liberal state in the USA.

It doesn't make a bit of difference. We like the checks and balances...so we often elect reasonable (they would definitely be called lefists or RINOs today) Republicans. But that type of Republican is more rare these days (the New England Republican).
Gee, NOTHING about MODERN history!
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Old Yesterday, 11:51 AM
 
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Trump DONATES his ENTIRE salary to charity.


Considering how many "rich" democrats there are in Congress, what haven't ANY of them done the same?
Now if we add up what he is making off of rent of office space, golf carts and hotel rooms to the secret service, we might have a fair value for the charitable salary donation. Then add in the money being made by at his hotels and clubs by people wanting to suck up by staying at his hotels and using the banquet and conference space you might get a fair number. By the time his 8 years is up, he will have made more money than the Clinton foundation.
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