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Old Today, 11:59 AM
 
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Texas will go blue if current trends continue. Probably not in 2020 but Republicans will have to campaign there by 2028.

Texas cities are booming and the rural, religious vote won't be able to outweigh the urban, more progressive vote there forever.
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Old Today, 12:00 PM
 
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Well, liberalism is slowly turning the USA into a ****hole. Look at one of the most liberal cities - sF. Some of the worst income disparity in the world and **** and needles covering the streets.
Look at rural Oklahoma. Look at rural West Virginia. Are those examples of what the entire country should look like?
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Old Today, 12:01 PM
 
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When Beto O'Rourke talked about Texas being in play at the debates, several of my friends and I discussed that. My thinking was that while Beto came close to unseating Cruz in the Senate race, love for one particular candidate doesn't automatically equal love for that candidate's entire party. We did all agree that Texas isn't likely turning blue in 2020 (unless Trump refers to Texas as a dump or something, Texans are extraordinarily proud of their state, that could tick 'em off). Most agreed 2032, *maybe* 2028.

But at this point, we're already seeing signs that the GOP might have to fight a little more for Texas than what they used to, so that's money and other resources going to a state that could have gone to others the GOP might have to fight for. Arizona, for example, might be in play for 2020.
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Old Today, 12:33 PM
 
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Texas will go blue if current trends continue. Probably not in 2020 but Republicans will have to campaign there by 2028.

Texas cities are booming and the rural, religious vote won't be able to outweigh the urban, more progressive vote there forever.
Because Hispanic people arenít religious right? Its demographics, not religion
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Old Today, 12:35 PM
 
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Because Hispanic people arenít religious right? Its demographics, not religion
Not all religious people are part of the white Christian Nationalist agenda that the GOP has embraced. Hispanic Catholics, black evangelicals, and white mainline protestants are among those who are not.
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Old Today, 12:54 PM
 
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What utter nonsense! Since when aren't Trump and his supporters inclusive of every law abiding, pro-America person?

Change isn't always a positive thing either especially when you are talking policies. Trump is not an idiot nor is he alienating a vast pool of voters. The only ones he is alienating are those that aren't either of the above in my first paragraph and who cares about them? They don't have the best interests of our nation at heart anyway.
Trump is so law abiding there are something like 15-20 ongoing investigations related to his finances and other matters. And, Trumpers and Trump himself decide whose "American" and who "isn't"?
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Old Today, 01:18 PM
 
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Care to actually cite any facts? Trump's Twitter account doesn't count



LOL... this is not something you can dismiss. House seats and the EC votes that go with them are allocated based on the census count, the census count includes the illegal population. States with higher illegal residents will necessarily get more House seats/EC votes. The numbers I'm citing are from this Politico article that outlines a possible but improbable scenario based on one study where the illegal population could of given Hillary the win because of this. And just so this is clearly understood it has nothing to do with vote fraud, it's their presence.
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Illegal immigrants—along with other noncitizens without the right to vote—may pick the 2016 presidential winner. Thanks to the unique math undergirding the Electoral College, the mere presence of 11-12 million illegal immigrants and other noncitizens here legally may enable them to swing the election from Republicans to Democrats.


The only thing that is debatable about this is how much it effects House Seats and EC votes, I believe that study they used is basing it on a conservative estimate of around 12 million. It could be as much as 30 million. This is why Democrats so vehemently opposed this question being added to the census form.
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Old Today, 01:28 PM
 
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Cruz and others warn Texas going Blue!

If Virginia can go blue, Texas can too.

Time to ramp up the voter suppression efforts. Git to it ...
GWB did a great job of creating a DC suburb that votes for their jobs. aka, northern VA. I'd like to hope that VA is not that pathetic that it has "gone blue."
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Old Today, 01:29 PM
 
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Texas will go blue if current trends continue. Probably not in 2020 but Republicans will have to campaign there by 2028.

Texas cities are booming and the rural, religious vote won't be able to outweigh the urban, more progressive vote there forever.
Well, the crux of the story is it is already going purple.....in many important districts. I mean - for Hillary to win districts in the last election and for cruz to lose 60% of his margin (typically would be 15 points, was 6 points over Beto)....those are major moves.

So it's not a question of their being any single date when a POTUS or Gov. may be blue there...that always depends on the candidates and how well Texas can suppress voting (extremely hard to sign up there).....

It's more a matter of what dominoes fall each election. There is no trend back the other way. In the end it will likely be California #2...yes, that far.

Perry liked to brag about going to Cali. and giving away free stuff to companies to open call centers, repair centers and even other jobs to TX. Well, he's getting his wish. Problem is...when you pay civilized and educated people to move to your state...you get civilized and educated people moving to your state.

Florida is likely to remain swing longer, IMHO, because it has the elder population and the "money at any cost" developers..and not the tech jobs and larger progressive history or population.

Texas and Kansas and other places had a history of Liberalism at one time....probably before the Fossil Fuel and Chemical Interests bought the place.
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Old Today, 01:34 PM
 
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Isn’t Texas a Hispanic majority state now, or close to it?
Hispanic = Blue...
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