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Old 08-03-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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I haven't been to Huntsville, but I've heard good things about it, and I like that it's in a part of the state that isn't too far from skiing in Mentone, AL nor that far from hiking around Chattanooga.

Mountain Brook (suburban Birmingham) would be okay, but my favorite area in Alabama (that I've been to) is probably Fairhope, and nearby Point Clear, followed by Mentone, and then probably Orange Beach. Tuscaloosa and the Opelika/Auburn area have their good points as well.
There are good points and bad points about Alabama. Alabama is not my cup of tea. Neither is Mississippi. If I had my pick of southern states, Tennessee and North Carolina would be on my list, and Virginia too.

My point is this. Someone brought up that California was better when it was ran by Republicans. I answered by saying that it depends. If you lived in San Diego or Silicon Valley, of course. If you lived in East L.A., South Central L.A., parts of Oakland, southeast San Francisco (Bayview-Hunters Point), or Compton, life was often not nice. Drugs, poverty, violence, blight in those areas.

And I brought up Alabama to drive the point further home. Alabama is a Republican-led state. It ranks near the bottom in terms of education. It has one of the highest murder rates in the USA. It has one of the highest poverty rates in the USA. And while some suburbs in the Birmingham area are nice, Birmingham proper is in rough shape. A murder rate of 52 murders per 100,000. A city which has been declining in population since the 1960s. Alabama is a Republican state, but it has alot of places that are in bad shape. Birmingham, Fairfield, Bessemer, Pritchard, Anniston, Selma. And then Alabama also has the Black Belt region. One of the poorest areas in the country.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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I'm not a Democrat and voted Republicans into office in years past....

Heck, I am not even a big fan of CA. But I understand their significance to this country and I don't consider them the "other side" but rather a state among states that should ban together... I believe the president should be a participant in that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itories_by_GDP

We can't afford / shouldn't alienate the #1 state economy by GDP (California by a large margin). The same could also be said of #2 (Texas).
I agree....and, other than lots of traveling and about a year in Nevada, I've lived my entire life in California and Texas.

I was surprised that one poster on this thread, who I often agree with, said something to the effect that California should become part of Mexico (and that was coming from a dislike of California POV, not a 'Reconquista' POV).
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:26 PM
 
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California was once a beautiful place for anyone. Now only for the elite, it’s a craphole unless you’re rich.
It depends on who you were. I'm sure that people who lived in Compton, Richmond, parts of Oakland, south and east Los Angeles, I'm sure they would have disagreed. This is how I see California. It was a good place, but it was never good for everybody. When Los Angeles was in the grip of gang violence, and had the L.A. riots of 1992, A Republican governor was in charge. When California had some of its highest murder rates, the majority of the time it was under a Republican governor. California has plenty of nice places, but it wasn't always good for everyone.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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No.... That is socialism. Government determining your value in life.
Minimum wage should be Zero.
... and everyone self employed, so they have a choice to stay in the rut, or learn more earn more.


I have a minimum, or I won't even go start the truck. Building a reputation is not overnight.
No, I would call it even more disgraceful rape as employers, determining value of work and lives, take great delight in discovering just how far close to ZERO people would be willing to work for. The only hope is the freed up labor market would work better for the workers, rather than the employers.

Not everybody is talented enough to fully support themselves by being self employed.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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Who did you vote for
Neither Clinton nor Trump, and over my life, for President, I've voted twice for independents, 4 times for Republicans, and 4 times for Democrats.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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And I brought up Alabama to drive the point further home. Alabama is a Republican-led state. It ranks near the bottom in terms of education. It has one of the highest murder rates in the USA. It has one of the highest poverty rates in the USA. And while some suburbs in the Birmingham area are nice, Birmingham proper is in rough shape. A murder rate of 52 murders per 100,000. A city which has been declining in population since the 1960s. Alabama is a Republican state, but it has alot of places that are in bad shape. Birmingham, Fairfield, Bessemer, Pritchard, Anniston, Selma. And then Alabama also has the Black Belt region. One of the poorest areas in the country.
Life is how you make it. When moving to one of these Red States please don't become a statistic. In other words, don't contribute to making the state an even more bad place to be on paper.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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This will be next week’s source of progressive outrage now that the Baltimore debacle is cooling off.

The week before Baltimore it was Trump’s “go back” comments.

The week before that it was the Mueller hearing.

It’s been like this for three years straight now: weekly groupthink meltdowns over instances of Trump still breathing.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
This. Simple.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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I live in Georgia. Alabama is next door. Huntsville is okay, but much of Alabama has alot of problems.

Birmingham isn't a nice place to live.

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Birmingham's population is listed as 212,265. It has dropped to 209,880 as of 2018. Birmingham has been bleeding population each decade since the 1960s. Birmingham had 340,887 in 1960. In 2018, its population was 209,880. The city had 110 murders in 2018. Birmingham's murder rate is around 52 murders per 100,000. Birmingham is slightly worse than Baltimore, which had a murder rate of 50.5 murders per 100,000. Birmingham has a poverty rate around 28%.

I bring these statistics up without any intention to talk badly about Alabama as a whole. I'm saying that Alabama has plenty of problems. If Alabama being Republican is suppose to be the solution to the problem, I'm not seeing it.
But Mountain Brook (suburban Birmingham) is a nice place to live.

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Old 08-03-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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The entire state of California? Like all the tens of millions of people? Like almost 10% the population of USA?

Yeah, I don't think so.

Plus whatever happened to making America great again? I mean if you can't even mend a state then what chance do you have of making anything of a country?

It is cute when toddler's throw a fit when they don't get what they want. Not so much when it's an old man.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Life is how you make it. When moving to one of these Red States please don't become a statistic. In other words, don't contribute to making the state an even more bad place to be on paper.
I live in a red state, Georgia. I've actually been a crime victim a few times here.
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