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Old 08-04-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Trump should become Gov of California. They are both embarrassing to the rest of the nation. They were made for each other.
Oh, no. The people in Flyoveristan like him, they can keep him.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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No argument on this one.
I've lived in California all my life except for four years in Hawaii...

I have also traveled the world, much of America too, and for too many reasons to count, I have never wanted to make my home anywhere but here in California. I grew up in Southern California, but once I moved to northern California to go to college, I knew I would never go back. I was here in the Bay Area to stay. In fact, I have done much in my career to keep from being transferred to any other part of the country. I got lucky getting transferred to Hawaii for four years, but I knew that sort of luck would not continue. From there I cold get transferred to any other part of the country I had been on business many times, and no thank you!

Lucky again after four years to be transferred back to northern California, and then I quit that company to start my own company in Northern California where I have managed to stay and now where I am happily retired for a few years now.

I've also been to pretty much every part of California many times, up and down the state. No doubt most people posting in this thread have not, but anyone who knows the state like I do realizes how diverse the state truly is in terms of offering just about anything in the way of lifestyle anyone could want. Even including low cost of living areas to the very highest. The higher the cost of living area, all I can say is there is a reason real estate in these parts of the state are so expensive.

California definitely has some problems that all Californians would like to see alleviated if not eliminated, but most people like me anyway tends to recognize these problems for what they are and the more serious ones are very difficult to correct in a way that most Californians consider reasonable and responsible. It isn't a question of money, because cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles have lots of money. So does the state for that matter, and we spend plenty of money to address the homeless problem(s) in all variety of ways, but even money can only go so far when it comes to so many people ending up homeless. We're not inclined to be Nazis about these problems or people in any case. Same with immigrants, legal or illegal.

Good border security and immigration policies, sure, but once a person is walking around anywhere in California (or any other state that leans toward sanctuary) they are considered people just like anyone else. These more liberal states are simply not going to allow people to be rounded up, interrogated and asked for papers based on the color of their skin. Sanctuary doesn't apply to anyone detained because of criminal activity mind you. This too it seems all too many conservative Americans just don't understand.

All to say there are thousands of miles you can travel in California and not encounter the homeless problem. You will probably see lots of migrants working the farms along the way, but they are hard at work picking your fruits and vegetables, so no real need to get in a twist about that either. You and yours are certainly not out there or in line for those jobs getting done by people Trump wants to make out as rapist murdering "bad hombres" anyway.

All to say, no matter who you are and no matter what state you live in, please know what you're droning on about before you go on with the droning. All I ask...

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Old 08-04-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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Here's a young woman talking about why she likes living in NW Arkansas.

She moved to NW Arkansas from California.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmsyYPf4bPw

She sounds like the typical California or northeast transplant in the south.
I live in the South and I don't want to live in Arkansas at all. Not my cup of tea. Neither is Mississippi, Alabama, or South Carolina (I lived there once, didn't care for it).
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I live in the South and I don't want to live in Arkansas at all. Not my cup of tea. Neither is Mississippi, Alabama, or South Carolina (I lived there once, didn't care for it).
tell that to all of the people from other regions of the country moving in.

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my point wasn't that everybody would prefer south to California. this woman was so positive about Arkansas and she was from California so it contradicts the left's narrative the south is horrible no good rotten place to live and Cali is utopia.

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Old 08-04-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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I live in the South and I don't want to live in Arkansas at all. Not my cup of tea. Neither is Mississippi, Alabama, or South Carolina (I lived there once, didn't care for it).
"Different strokes for different folks."

No doubt. Too bad more Americans can't simply recognize the diversity is okay, but not to the point of misrepresenting or insulting all who don't see things the same way as Trump does. Imagine if the goal was to be fair, reasonable and productive instead!

The possibilities for progress endless, and priceless!
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Instead of "making America great again" tRump now picks out pieces of America to hate on.

And, as this thread so clearly illustrates, his Trumplings follow their leader.

Republi-lemmings?

I don’t agree with Trump on everything (did not vote for him), but he is right on this one. Sometimes in order to make something great, you have to acknowledge the problem. Democrats are so afraid to point out issues. Decades of weak policies, law enforcement and just plain old being afraid to call a spade a spade has led to the decline of many American cities. Juliani had it right in New York City when he took over. Forced out businesses that brought trouble, encouraged new ones to come in, beefed up the police force and gave them authority to do their jobs. Took New York from being a crap hole to a relatively safe city to live and work in.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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tell that to all of the people from other regions of the country moving in.

You are so far left it is hard to believe you could live in ATL.

seem like everytime i see you post it is something about racism.

do you have any other interests.

my point wasn't that everybody would prefer south to California. this woman was so positive about Arkansas and she was from California so it contradicts the left's narrative the south is horrible no good rotten place to live and Cali is utopia.
Lots of Californians are "cashing in" and moving to lower cost of living areas for reasons not always having to do with happiness, and lots of those states where Californian's are moving are none to happy about the influx of people unless they are happy about the cost of their real estate going up too.

Perfect case in point is Nevada. Las Vegas, Nevada where lots of Americans like to move when they retire so they can get away from state income taxes and buy bigger homes for half the price (some that I know personally). All this week, however, they've been dealing with temps around 110 degrees and swarms of grasshoppers of biblical proportions. Drive around and if it isn't dessert, cactus and casinos you want to see as you go to wherever you can find air conditioning, you're just not a "happy camper."

Bottom line for me anyway. No thank you!

I just wish more Californians would move to other states, because even as they do, we can't seem to keep too many people from staying and/or who keep coming here!
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Lots of Californians are "cashing in" and moving to lower cost of living areas for reasons not always having to do with happiness, and lots of those states where Californian's are moving are none to happy about the influx of people unless they are happy about the cost of their real estate going up too.

Perfect case in point is Nevada. Las Vegas, Nevada where lots of Americans like to move when they retire so they can get away from state income taxes and buy bigger homes for half the price (some that I know personally). All this week, however, they've been dealing with temps around 110 degrees and swarms of grasshoppers of biblical proportions. Drive around and if it isn't dessert, cactus and casinos you want to see as you go to wherever you can find air conditioning, you're just not a "happy camper."

Bottom line for me anyway. No thank you!

I just wish more Californians would move to other states, because even as they do, we can't seem to keep too many people from staying and/or who keep coming here!
i don't think most of the transplants moving to the areas of California that Trump's talking about.

a lot of rich people in Cali doesn't negate the fact there is a lot of horrible poverty there.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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I don’t agree with Trump on everything (did not vote for him), but he is right on this one. Sometimes in order to make something great, you have to acknowledge the problem. Democrats are so afraid to point out issues. Decades of weak policies, law enforcement and just plain old being afraid to call a spade a spade has led to the decline of many American cities. Juliani had it right in New York City when he took over. Forced out businesses that brought trouble, encouraged new ones to come in, beefed up the police force and gave them authority to do their jobs. Took New York from being a crap hole to a relatively safe city to live and work in.
Downtown Los Angeles is undergoing quite the renaissance and becoming a very livable city, unlike the ghost-town-after-8-PM it used to be.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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I don’t agree with Trump on everything (did not vote for him), but he is right on this one. Sometimes in order to make something great, you have to acknowledge the problem. Democrats are so afraid to point out issues. Decades of weak policies, law enforcement and just plain old being afraid to call a spade a spade has led to the decline of many American cities. Juliani had it right in New York City when he took over. Forced out businesses that brought trouble, encouraged new ones to come in, beefed up the police force and gave them authority to do their jobs. Took New York from being a crap hole to a relatively safe city to live and work in.
Trump's mean-whatever-you-like slogan was "make America great again," not just make America great. "Make America Great" would have been much better...

Not only sometimes but always, you've got to acknowledge the problem AND understand the true cause(s) as well as the challenges. There is not one problem Democrats are avoiding, but when one recognizes the root causes, simple slogans and tired conservative rhetoric doesn't cut it. Total misrepresentation of the causes of these problems all the worse!

In any case, how do we compare and contrast the better or worse in these respects when it comes to New York or any other city? Not like New York is held up as a model conservative city either far as I know. Why, for example do these cities rank the way they do in terms of overall quality of life? Many in the top 10 are in the very liberal state of California despite all the negative conservative bashing to the contrary. One might reasonably ask how that's even possible...

https://realestate.usnews.com/real-e...-life?slide=26
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