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Old 08-10-2019, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Originally Posted by TBCasino View Post
I only bash red states when these type of posts bashing CA pop up, it’s ok to bash CA but when someone in CA bashes back, uh oh! The posts in this thread are a perfect example of that. You can’t complain about return fire, if you don’t like it or can’t handle it, don’t start up in the first place. I know, I know, none of Mississippi’s problems can be blamed on Republicans, yadda, yadda, Republicans are totally blameless, lol, what a shock.
I didn’t say things got worse under GOP control, I said things are the same, which, you know, is surprising since they’ve been in control the majority of the time.
I don’t think you can deny the right loves to go after CA, so here we are. If you want to bring up California’s bad points and conveniently forget your own, I will certainly remind you.

“liberal partisan”, lol, I like that.
I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'.

Trump brought up problems in California b/c the governor bashed him. That's what Trump does if you bash him.

The scandalous DJT did not randomly start talking about California.

Open border Republicans in Miss aren't helping the poverty issue in Miss but Democrats are also open borders. Flooding this country with more poor people and drugs isn't exactly helping fix problems. I don't see any reason to believe Democrat's open borders policy has helped California and it has made it worse.

a big reason red states have been able to attract companies is right to work laws with prohibits union membership from being required to get a job in the state. Democrats typically oppose right to work laws, and the Obama admin even tried to stop Boeing from opening up a plant in South Carolina because of this.

I also don't think jacking up taxes would help the state lure business and people. who wants to jack up taxes.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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To be fair, California makes it easy.

The state is a prime example of why most conservatives don’t want to see big government get bigger. The state itself is beautiful, and there are some areas which are still moderately “normal”. The major population centers, on the other hand, are a dumpster fire next to a gas station.

By the way, I’m not a conservative except in the constitutional sense. That whole constitutional conservative thing, though, is why I view California with skepticism. Not sure why y’all have such a hard time electing politicians that know their elbow from their *******, but there it is.
California does make it easy, but CA is not alone in that uncomfortable room. In terms of their politics, yeah, it could most certainly be better and the courts are not helping, but with that, there are positives here as well and with that, what some posters here forget to realize or acknowledge while crapping on CA, a large number of conservatives too.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'.

Trump brought up problems in California b/c the governor bashed him. That's what Trump does if you bash him.

The scandalous DJT did not randomly start talking about California.
Whoa there, prove I did not know this, point it out for me, thanks in advance.

and in terms of the rest of your post, I was referring to the OP and posts following therein, how did you miss this after I pointed it out? How?

-Liberal Partisan
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Are you saying you are not a liberal?
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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Are you saying you are not a liberal?
Umm, I'm asking you to prove this statement of yours

"I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'. "

Can you prove I didn't know this? Yes or no, simple question.



-Liberal Partisan
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Trump is a disgrace to our country.
then get out and vote, dagnabit, and get everyone you know to vote ---the problem is so many stayed home because they saw it as a sure thing that he'd lose ---even he thought he'd lose and was shaken up when he won (scared like he saw a ghost).

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-a3731476.html
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Umm, I'm asking you to prove this statement of yours

"I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'. "

Can you prove I didn't know this? Yes or no, simple question.



-Liberal Partisan
No need for me to prove it.

let's say you did know it. You are still trying to associate GOP with the high crime, poverty, 'bad' schools, etc in those states without specifying which GOP policies contribute to those things.

Does GOP support of the death penalty lead to more murders?

Does supporting all law abiding citizens, including black citizens, having the right to own a firearm for self defense make them more or less safe.

in the past Democrats have said GOP's tough on crime stance was racist. so GOP is too soft on crime now?

Does supporting school vouchers so that parents can send to other schools if they think the school is failing their kid cause students to do poorly in school?

I think Trump's prison reform bill was way too lenient and could even be described as liberal yet the left still calling him a racist.

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Old 08-10-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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I feel bad for the millions of Californians that have to suffer leftist lunacy in their state.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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No need for me to prove it.
Makes statement about me, can't back it up with proof, got it.

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let's say you did know it. You are still trying to associate GOP with the high crime, poverty, 'bad' schools, etc in those states without specifying which GOP policies contribute to those things.
Again, you bash CA, you should be able to take a response, I'm not sure you are. I point out red states (apparently, I'm not supposed to), and then you come back with this stream of whatever

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Does GOP support of the death penalty lead to more murders?
That's a different conversation which I wouldn't mind having with you, so start a thread and I'll see you there.

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Does supporting all law abiding citizens, including black citizens, having the right to own a firearm for self defense make them more or less safe.
What does the 2A have to do with anything I posted?

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in the past Democrats have said GOP's tough on crime stance was racist. so GOP is too soft on crime now?
Where did I say this? Please point it out.

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Does supporting school vouchers so that parents can send to other schools if they think the school is failing their kid cause students to do poorly in school?
School vouchers now? Jeeze, you're all over the place.

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I think Trump's prison reform bill was way too lenient and could even be described as liberal yet the left still calling him a racist.
and what does your thoughts on his crime bill have anything to do with any of my posts?

-Liberal Partisan
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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It has to do with you trying to link the problems in red states with the GOP.

You can't refute my points that your party's policies are not going to solve any problems in any state.

Is open borders and amnesty city policy the way to improve red states?

When conservatives talk about the issues in California, we point to specific liberal policies.

Denying you are a liberal seems like you lack the courage of your convictions.

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