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Old 08-11-2019, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Acting Presidential doesn't make someone a doormat. President and 5 star General Dwight David Eisenhower was presidential, and I can't imagine anyone saying he was a doormat.

Wanting a President to act Presidential doesn't make someone 'on the left' either.
You come across as somebody who wants to scold somebody for something.

What does Trump do that is 'unpresidential'.

he doesn't have Eisenhower's personality so he's not 'Presidential'?
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:07 AM
 
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IMO, Washington exceeds it...and I'm a 5th Generation California native.. I've never been to Hawaii nor Alaska though.
Hawaii is stunning. Even better than CA IMO, and I grew up in CA and have lots of relatives there still. Possibly depends on what part of CA one grows up in... It was southern for me and I adore the beaches, tropical plants, and so on. Oh I miss them so. Hawaii takes that to the next level. Went there for a couple weeks for honeymoon and hope to go back there sooner rather than later.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:06 AM
 
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You come across as somebody who wants to scold somebody for something.

What does Trump do that is 'unpresidential'.

he doesn't have Eisenhower's personality so he's not 'Presidential'?
Most everything?

No, it's not because he doesn't have a personality just like Eisenhower. That's just an example of someone who could be a good leader without being considered weak as an illustration its possible.

The president is supposed to act like the leader of the whole country, so we could look at the general traits of a good leader to start..

I deliberately chose an article about great leaders that was published before he announced his candidacy to make sure it wasn't influenced by his leadership style or anything like that.

https://csuglobal.edu/blog/make-indi...ship-potential

Two that especially stand out as reasons he isn't presidential:

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.Honesty – You should always be honest. If you are not, no one will respect or trust you. Generally, people want to work with others they feel have integrity and will lead them on the right path.

Cooperation – You need to get to along with others and be able to handle disagreements professionally, and not just within your department, but across the organization. It’s okay to disagree with others, but how you handle those disagreements will really show whether or not you have what it takes to lead.
The way he lashes back at any criticism or just is combative in many situations isn't something I would let my small children get away with. My little kids behave better than he does a lot of the time, period. That's kinda depressing.

There are ways to be assertive without being a jerk or a bully. There really, truly, are.

It's late, but there's a start.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Democrats president and other politicians lash out at critics all the time. That doesn't bother you because you agree with them.

You don't complain about Democrats attacking him, only Trump responding to them.

Your side concocted a Russia collusion plot and smeared Trump with it for two years then you want to talk about honesty?

Trump's not your little kid.

Trump's not the leader of the entire country, he's the representative of the people who voted for him. If he's representing liberal interests, then he lied to his voters and you said honesty is important to being a good leader.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You come across as somebody who wants to scold somebody for something.

What does Trump do that is 'unpresidential'.

he doesn't have Eisenhower's personality so he's not 'Presidential'?
Probably about 20 actions and comments per day. But in the last 24 hours? He accused a former president of murdering a prisoner that Trump himself partied with, along with many young women. That may be the most unpresidential thing anyone has done yet, but Trump keeps topping himself with disgraceful crude low-class behavior.

His ad nauseum dumb tweets are also extremely unpresidential and about 75% of the country believes that.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Probably about 20 actions and comments per day. But in the last 24 hours? He accused a former president of murdering a prisoner that Trump himself partied with, along with many young women. That may be the most unpresidential thing anyone has done yet, but Trump keeps topping himself with disgraceful crude low-class behavior.

His ad nauseum dumb tweets are also extremely unpresidential and about 75% of the country believes that.
Was having sex with an intern in the Oval Office presidential? Any government employee who did that would be fired.

It is pretty weird that you are trying to make Trump out as unpresidential b/c he retweeted something about Clinton who was our most unpresidential president.

Liberals have been accusing Trump of having Epstein killed so welcome to politics. #TrumpBodyCount was trending on Twitter yesterday.

Don't get mad Trump plays your party's game better than your party does.

You guys have smeared Trump as a traitor and white supremacist for 3 years but then virtue signal and clutch your pearls if he tweets something in response.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: california
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Liberals did ask much out of Obama and Obama was the worst of presidents a nation could endure. His actions brought about more division than any one .Known as the greatest gun sales man in history. Even liberals are now packing .
Trump has more guts than many of the presidents we have had in decades , especially with all the false rhetoric being thrown at him relentlessly .
Secondly look at all the criminals in government being dealt with that had not been touched in the last 3 administrations.
You cannot not honestly say Trump is a weak president ,His life is more at risk then Kennedy ever was .
The mandate on the left to break this country down to a third world isn't going to help things ,they will only get much worse than you can imagine . Take a good long look at Venezuela .This is the level of corruption Obama and Hilary were hoping for.
and you want this for your future and your children's future ?
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: 125 Years Too Late...
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Trump: California ‘a disgrace to our country’
It is.

Which is a shame. I grew up in the Bay Area. The surrounding geography and climate is almost heavenly. Too bad it has become a living hell, socially. If someone were to offer me a million dollars to live there for one year rent free, I would not do it. I haven't been there in over twenty-five years. I can't bear to see what it has become. I will never go there again even to visit save a post-apocalyptic scenario wherein the Golden Hoard had been washed into the sea and the area were being repopulated.

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Probably about 20 actions and comments per day. But in the last 24 hours? He accused a former president of murdering a prisoner that Trump himself partied with, along with many young women. That may be the most unpresidential thing anyone has done yet, but Trump keeps topping himself with disgraceful crude low-class behavior.

His ad nauseum dumb tweets are also extremely unpresidential and about 75% of the country believes that.
Some folks are too worried about what a person says rather than what a person does. I don't really give a damn what Trump says. Talk is cheap and anyone can tell you anything you want to hear. What I care about is how his policies and actions are affecting me (and the citizenry in general). In my opinion, thus far only good things have happened as opposed to the bad things that happened in the previous eight years--bad things such as the reinstatement of slavery, which Trump reversed. If he did nothing else besides reinstating the Thirteenth Amendment, he'd have my support. As it is, he has done many, many things that meet my approval and garner my support. But then again, as I said, I believe that talk is cheap and words are not really worth spit. It's what is DONE that counts, not what is said. He could stand there and babble like an ape as far as I care. What he DOES policy-wise sways my opinion.

By the way, if you want to see "disgraceful, crude, low-class behavior," go watch some of the left-wing meltdowns on Youtube. They are real gems.

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Old 08-11-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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Trump knows he will never get support from those areas. He's just making sure all potential voters know who runs them.
Looks to me like he succeeded.
At the very least, he should at least try not to alienate alot of people. There is a difference between being honest and being a jerk. You can be honest with people without being a jerk. And Trump only called Baltimore a dump because he didn't like how Cummings was talking to him regarding the border wall.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Democrats president and other politicians lash out at critics all the time. That doesn't bother you because you agree with them.

You don't complain about Democrats attacking him, only Trump responding to them.

Your side concocted a Russia collusion plot and smeared Trump with it for two years then you want to talk about honesty?

Trump's not your little kid.

Trump's not the leader of the entire country, he's the representative of the people who voted for him. If he's representing liberal interests, then he lied to his voters and you said honesty is important to being a good leader.
I am not a Democrat, liberal or anything. I have no party, no side. I didn't vote for him, either Clinton, nor Obama. And what he does is different than other presidents I have seen. It's not just tweets or words, it's his actions too.

So I shouldn't expect a grown man who is supposed to be the head of the whole country to act better than a little kid? Sheesh.

He IS the leader of the whole country, even those who didn't vote for him. It's not dishonest if he acts like the leader of everyone as a basic idea. He is the President of the US, not President of Those Who Voted for Him. This is the cooperation section I mentioned. He should have better behavior than those under him in status.

One example was when there were many states in the West with wildfires going on last year. We had them pretty bad here in Utah. But he only decided to attack California - as fires burned and people died and lost their houses and more - over it and threaten not to help with federal funds. Not a peep about the dozen or so other states, mostly red. It's crap like that.

Yes, he can work to promote what he campaigned on and some people won't like it. But he acts more like they are actual enemies to the US, not fellow citizens who disagree but still are his citizens.

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