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Old 08-03-2019, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Nearly impossible to distinguish good vs bad guys with guns in the midst of chaos.
This is an important point. An armed person may very well not pull out their weapon in a situation like this for two reasons:

1) You don’t know who the bad guy is when multiple people are holding guns.

2) The other people don’t know if you’re the bad guy or not when you’re holding a gun.

Both of these scenarios could easily lead to even more innocent people killed.

What makes me really angry is that we still guard our money in banks better than we do people in schools, stores, etc.

 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post

First let me quote from the federalist papers ....

Let me quote from the PA Constitution of 1776 predating the Federalist Papers and the US Constitution.
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That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination, to, and governed by, the civil power.

As amended in 1790:
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The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:14 PM
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Location: Charlotte
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I think itís time to re-enact this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ment...ms_Act_of_1980
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:15 PM
 
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Just a thought: Here we have tax free weekend for back to school kids. (assuming Texas has tax free weekend)...Is it possible they targeted Walmart because there were be tons of shoppers in there?
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah View Post
Heck, I've been like for decades, of where are the nearest exits, primary and secondary are on aircraft.


Now, you want to say that's just aircraft?



https://cdn.aviation-safety.net/phot...1217-3-C-1.jpg


Members of my community were harmed in that attack.


Some of us learned very early.
I was at the WTC on 2/26/1993 and 9/11.

I make note of exits.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by ATX Wahine View Post
This is an important point. An armed person may very well not pull out their weapon in a situation like this for two reasons:

1) You donít know who the bad guy is when multiple people are holding guns.

2) The other people donít know if youíre the bad guy or not when youíre holding a gun.

Both of these scenarios could easily lead to even more innocent people killed.

What makes me really angry is that we still guard our money in banks better than we do people in schools, stores, etc.
Yup...

No freakin way I am going to brandish my weapon unless directly threatened. Other's don't know who I am. Police responding don't know who I am. I don't know who nor how many active shooters are involved. I'm certainly not going to want to accidentally shoot an innocent and have to live with that for the rest of my life.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: California
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Try to act less gleeful, I know how happy mass shootings make you nutty libs
This right here, some are already salivating about next weekend.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I would think this is more a Current Event.
No it is a political problem since assault weapons are too easily accessible and politicians are too much pressure by groups such as the NRA. They either fear losing the vote or losing the money for standing up to them. The second amendment doesn't mean we should have weapons of war, it just doesn't. The second amendment is a tactic and needs amending.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Patsfan20 View Post
I think itís time to re-enact this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ment...ms_Act_of_1980
Most with serious mental health issues are oblivious to it or otherwise avoid help.
 
Old 08-03-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by usayit View Post
Yup...

No freakin way I am going to brandish my weapon unless directly threatened. Other's don't know who I am. Police responding don't know who I am. I don't know who nor how many active shooters are involved. I'm certainly not going to want to accidentally shoot an innocent and have to live with that for the rest of my life.
Thank you for you honesty.

Way too many arm chair warriors seem to fantasize about stopping a mass shooter in his tracks.

Nearly impossible to distinguish a good vs bad guy with a gun in the middle of chaos.

The hero is more likely to be shot by another good guy and/ or LE.
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