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Old 08-04-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
When you show up at the primary to vote, you are associating yourself with that party. This is what the shooter's registration as a Democrat indicated. The last time he voted in a primary here in Texas, it was the primary for the Democrats.

I am in Texas. I know how this works here.
Then prove it, show this Democratic registration....

 
Old 08-04-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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The best article on events with photos and videos (none graphic) :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-shooting.html
Thank you for posting that link.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Dems don't want your guns. First they want Trump to quit his hateful racist rhetoric. We want assault weapon bans. And before some of you come on here to school me on the definition of assault weapons, don't bother because I'm not interested. We also want background checks. That would be a start. It's a shame that the president of the U.S. promotes white nationalism and demonizes those who are "other."
You want something already proven as ineffective? I bought scary semi autos all during the one that lasted from 94-04. The ban didn't ban squat.

How do you do a bgc on someone in your garage?
 
Old 08-04-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
When you show up at the primary to vote, you are associating yourself with that party. This is what the shooter's registration as a Democrat indicated. The last time he voted in a primary here in Texas, it was the primary for the Democrats.

I am in Texas. I know how this works here.
I also lived in Texas and know how it works as well.
Party affiliation is NOT on your registration.
You affiliate once you vote and it's only valid for that election year.
You can change your affiliation the next voting year if you so choose.

Show us the link to back up your claim.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
Does any one posting here (besides me) have a solution to the gun violence in this country?
If so, then let's hear it.
Enough of the blaming, now let's find a solution.
The simple truth is that there is no solution - especially via legislation. You just can't legislate against violent human behavior. You can punish after the fact, but the typical mass shooter intends to die by their own hand, or the cops'.

This kind of thing does happen elsewhere. There's no way to stop it. Perhaps the media could tone down the coverage in order to prevent a few copycat cases, and maybe we could posthumously change every mass shooter's name to Fatso Buttface and publish photos of a horse's butt instead of their actual portraits, but there's really not much we can do.

The ages seem to be getting younger, so our schools could do a better job of identifying and working with troubled/bullied/violent kids.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by DerpyDerp View Post
The simple truth is that there is no solution - especially via legislation. You just can't legislate against violent human behavior. You can punish after the fact, but the typical mass shooter intends to die by their own hand, or the cops'.

This kind of thing does happen elsewhere. There's no way to stop it. Perhaps the media could tone down the coverage in order to prevent a few copycat cases, and maybe we could posthumously change every mass shooter's name to Fatso Buttface and publish photos of a horse's butt instead of their actual portraits, but there's really not much we can do.

The ages seem to be getting younger, so our schools could do a better job of identifying and working with troubled/bullied/violent kids.
This second loon even killed his own sister!
 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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The X factor in the US vs other places with equal numbers of angry young men is ..guns.

Shocking. A minorities fantasy about overthrowing the government and/or paranoia about the non-white man has led to a country awash in guns.

There is no answer to this problem.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
I also lived in Texas and know how it works as well.
Party affiliation is NOT on your registration.
You affiliate once you vote and it's only valid for that election year.
You can change your affiliation the next voting year if you so choose.

Show us the link to back up your claim.
You register with a party when you vote in their primary in Texas. That is what the shooter's party registration with the Democrats indicates. You can only vote in one primary.

He voted with the Democrats the last time he voted in a primary, which given his age (21 - 7/27/98), had to be 2018, because he would have been too young to vote in the primary in Texas in 2016.

You provide a link proving that is wrong, if you can. You cannot do it, because what I have stated here is correct.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
Looking through most of the post in this thread, it seems it is a blame game.
Everybody is blaming this one, or that one.

Does any one posting here (besides me) have a solution to the gun violence in this country?
If so, then let's hear it.
Enough of the blaming, now let's find a solution.

Bob.
You've done more than your fair share of blaming this one, or that one. Maybe you should start with yourself? Abolishing the 2nd Amendment (your solution) is no solution. It was incorporated into the Bill of Rights for a reason. That reason is just as valid today as it was back when the Constitution was first drafted and ratified. You have a convoluted interpretation of the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment. It's quite obvious that you've never even bothered to read the Federalist Papers in their entirety. I provide for you a list of quotes from those papers that you conveniently ignored. The United States Supreme Court in it's Heller and McDonald decisions already confirmed that the 2nd Amendment is indeed an individual right and not a collective right reserved for only those who serve in an organized militia.

The Supreme Court already ruled that the 2nd Amendment applies to weapons that are in "common use". Tanks, rocket launchers, hand grenades, nukes, etc. would not be protected. Semi-Automatic firearms are ubiquitous and are indeed in "common use" and are therefore protected by the 2nd Amendment. You choose to ignore that decision as well.

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”Obviously the amendment does not apply to arms that can not be hand carried--It's to keep and 'bear' so it doesn't apply to cannons. But I suppose there are hand held rocket launchers that can bring down airplanes, that will have to be decided."-- "The 2nd Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."--- Antonin Scalia (Heller vs DC) www.law.cornell.edu/suplt
Then you go on to state that: "This carnage is never going to stop until such time the government/military disarm the general population". Well how the hell are they going to do that unless they have guns? So I guess you're okay with guns as long as those guns are being used to forcibly confiscate guns from their lawful owners? See the essay below:

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The debate over gun control can be summed up thusly: Those of us who don't like guns in the hands of our non-costumed brethren, will vote to ensure men with guns, under the guise of the "law," will come and take the property that is rightfully yours, killing you should you resist our will sufficiently.

This is what we call "violence by-proxy" and makes the voter for violence no less culpable in the extortion and death that will ensue.

As Stefan Molyneux correctly observed; if a person claims they are non-violent and are for “gun control” they are not truly anti-gun nor are they non-violent people - because the reality is that guns and violence will be needed to disarm innocent law abiding people.

This is because those people who claim they are anti-gun and anti-violence, who claim to support “gun control,” will need the credible threat of police violence and the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns should they resist the attempt to further centralize their monopoly on violence.

So those who claim to be anti-gun and anti-violence are really very pro-gun and very pro-violence. They ultimately believe that only government officials (which are of course portrayed as reliable, honest, moral, and virtuous) should be allowed to have guns. This obviously flies in the face of reality as the 20th century has proven once and for all.

It’s important to note that those who advocate this type of centralized monopoly of violence do so as cowards, because it’s not their lives 
on the line, rather they advocate others using violence on their behalf in
order to force their misguided views on innocent people who wish to do nothing other than protect themselves and other innocents.

There is no such thing as "gun control," there is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political class and the forces they control which, as recent history has proven is a murderous nightmare for the peace loving, disenfranchised, and disarmed citizenry.--Ron Danielowski
Banning and criminalizing one's lawful activities and possessions because of the actions of others is never going to win you any converts. Not to mention other Constitutional protections that would have to be sacrificed in order to legally enforce such draconian measures. You'd better be careful of what you wish for as someday you may wake up and find that it is your ox that is now being gored.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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The X factor in the US vs other places with equal numbers of angry young men is ..guns.

Shocking. A minorities fantasy about overthrowing the government and/or paranoia about the non-white man has led to a country awash in guns.

There is no answer to this problem.
Bullcrap- America has always had guns long before your liberal fantasies were in place. America was born of violence- settlers had to fight Indians, invading Brits X2, a Civil War, and a vast part of the country that was lawless. We are the only nation that has a Constitution that guarantees gun ownership, which has kept us free, while Europe and Asia have been conquered and invaded over and over again.

People in the US, as it was developing, hunted (and still do) for food. Hunting and outdoor activities is far more popular than it is in other nations, thus we have more guns.

Violence has become more prevalent due to liberalism, which as destroyed the family unit, the church, and respect of life through violence in the media and entertainment industry. Further, liberals and liberal politicians routinely violate the law themselves, but then expect others to obey the law to a "T"!

Don't create the political and environmental situation for lawlessness, then complain about crimes!
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