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Old 08-04-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by dman72 View Post
The X factor in the US vs other places with equal numbers of angry young men is ..guns.

Shocking. A minorities fantasy about overthrowing the government and/or paranoia about the non-white man has led to a country awash in guns.

There is no answer to this problem.
There are answers, but no one want to address the issue.
No one wants to step on someone's toes, so nothing gets done.
It should not be left up to politicians to solve the issue, because they are in the pockets of the nra.
It is the people who must stand up and confront this gun ownership issue, once and for all.
Let's take a look at issues in the past, and how they were dealt with.

Oppression, and rule by the British government.
Ordinary people took up arms against the British army and won independence for this country.

The civil war.
People fought against slavery,and laws were passed outlawing slavery.

The civil rights act of 1964.
How did that come about?
People , ordinary citizens got involved once again, and demanded change.
Change came in the form of the civil rights act.

Gay rights.
People in the gay community demanded the same rights as other citizens, and achieved them.

Everything mentioned above, took ordinary people to get change, and this issue concerning firearms is going to have to have the same input from ordinary people who are fed up with all the killing.
Until then, we can only look forward to more"our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims,and their families".
I say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, as a group, people need to organize and let their voices be heard, in order to achieve change.


Bob.

 
Old 08-04-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
I say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, as a group, people need to organize and let their voices be heard, in order to achieve change.
What is the change you're seeking and how do you propose accomplishing it?
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
35,822 posts, read 32,529,503 times
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
There are answers, but no one want to address the issue.
No one wants to step on someone's toes, so nothing gets done.
It should not be left up to politicians to solve the issue, because they are in the pockets of the nra.
It is the people who must stand up and confront this gun ownership issue, once and for all.
Let's take a look at issues in the past, and how they were dealt with.

Oppression, and rule by the British government.
Ordinary people took up arms against the British army and won independence for this country.

The civil war.
People fought against slavery,and laws were passed outlawing slavery.

The civil rights act of 1964.
How did that come about?
People , ordinary citizens got involved once again, and demanded change.
Change came in the form of the civil rights act.

Gay rights.
People in the gay community demanded the same rights as other citizens, and achieved them.

Everything mentioned above, took ordinary people to get change, and this issue concerning firearms is going to have to have the same input from ordinary people who are fed up with all the killing.
Until then, we can only look forward to more"our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims,and their families".
I say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, as a group, people need to organize and let their voices be heard, in order to achieve change.


Bob.

The NRA is only 5 million people so you have plenty left to work with.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DerpyDerp View Post
The simple truth is that there is no solution - especially via legislation. You just can't legislate against violent human behavior. You can punish after the fact, but the typical mass shooter intends to die by their own hand, or the cops'.

This kind of thing does happen elsewhere. There's no way to stop it. Perhaps the media could tone down the coverage in order to prevent a few copycat cases, and maybe we could posthumously change every mass shooter's name to Fatso Buttface and publish photos of a horse's butt instead of their actual portraits, but there's really not much we can do.

The ages seem to be getting younger, so our schools could do a better job of identifying and working with troubled/bullied/violent kids.
The above is one of the far and few in-between reasonable posts here today.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:01 PM
 
Location: NY
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R.I.P. victims

I guess the Socialists will be firing up a bill to outlaw Walmart...................................
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
It wasn't long ago that video games were blamed. Now Trump is on the scene and he is blamed for it. You ban assault weapons and shooting will continue. Then you say this is not enough and we have to confiscate them. This is actually a logical move but you don't have the guts to say it now. You want to death by a thousand cuts. Oh, about "hateful" language, espousing the rule of law is not hateful language. It's the Dema who have unleashed 100,000 people on the southern border through their misguided(?) legislations. They need to stop.
Trump spews hateful racist language that emboldens white nationalists. No president has ever done that. Instead of trying to bring people together he has done nothing but foment hate for "other." He doesn't espouse the rule of law. He espouses hyperbole and rhetoric that does nothing but tear apart the fabric of our nation. And that is what needs to stop.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:02 PM
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There is an answer. The right won't accept it.
What is it? I would love to hear it.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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What is it? I would love to hear it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gun-...deaths-2017-10
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:10 PM
 
17,497 posts, read 8,838,629 times
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Trump spews hateful racist language that emboldens white nationalists. No president has ever done that. Instead of trying to bring people together he has done nothing but foment hate for "other." He doesn't espouse the rule of law. He espouses hyperbole and rhetoric that does nothing but tear apart the fabric of our nation. And that is what needs to stop.
No matter how many times you spew it, does not make it true.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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So you're saying that a mostly homogeneous nation that has almost no gun ownership and no constitutional right to bear arms is an apples-to-apples comparison with the United States and hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms?
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