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Old 08-04-2019, 05:45 PM
Status: "WTH is going on out there!?!" (set 15 days ago)
Location: Charlotte
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Originally Posted by SoCal_Native View Post
Yes as a matter fact there were. And there were bad people too, as President Trump mentioned.

Next question?
They won’t talk about that. Don’t bring facts.

Old 08-04-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by donsabi View Post
This shooting is a direct result of the Trump effect. Trump is as guilty in El Paso as the actual shooter.

If Trump keeps up with his racial rhetoric we will continue to see these slaughters of innocent people. Trump has the capacity of firing up disturbed people and pushing them to commit these acts. Be aware that Trump may also fire up an entire white supremacist group who could attack a soft target in numbers.
Would you people please get off the blame Trump nonsense? It's getting old and repetitious. We get it you hate Trump with a passion and will find anything to pin on him. These shootings have taken place well before Trump was elected president and under both Republican and Democrat administrations.

Since you want to go down that road:

UPDATED: Mass Shootings Under Obama Surge to 246.7% of His ...
NUMBER OF MASS SHOOTINGS BY PARTY. Under these four Presidents there have been far more mass shootings under Democrat Presidents than there have been under Republican Presidents. Going back to 1989 when George H.W. Bush took office, 71.43% of mass shootings have taken place under a Democrat President.

Presidents and Mass Shootings | National Affairs
The Obama administration endured 24 mass shootings — more than the three preceding administrations combined. More than any previous administration, Obama and his cabinet appeared to have a playbook for responding to shootings, and they usually commented on or issued statements about them.
Old 08-04-2019, 05:58 PM
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by Ex New Yorker View Post
Would you people please get off the blame Trump nonsense? It's getting old and repetitious.
Yes it is... I wish people would stop trying to paint broad brush across either party... or president.

... I am NOT a Trump supporter.
Old 08-04-2019, 05:59 PM
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
I won't go so far as to rip it apart, but one thing you mentioned would go against the 2nd, as the amendment is interpreted, that being the insurance of firearms.
That is what could be called an infringement, and firearms according to the 2nd are supposed to be a right, that can not be infringed upon.
Some of your ideas have merit, but the insurance one just won't fly.

SCOTUS is the law of the land. It say's reasonable restrictions are constitutional. If the shall not be infringed is taken literally, then having to pay for the AR15 or AK is an infringement on the second amendment just like purchasing gun liability insurance would be.
You can bet that insurance companies would set up their actuary tables for screening gun owners if they had to insure their liability.
Old 08-04-2019, 06:02 PM
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress View Post
Washington Examiner reported there was a second shooter shot and killed by police. There is a reason the shooters went to the Walmart in El Paso instead of the closer one in Allen TX. Law enforcement had told another WalMart in Socorro to close as well. Sounds like they got info that Walmart would be a target but didn't know which one.

Also heard the El Paso shooter had been registered Democrat but, strangely, that info was just changed to Republican. Not too fishy, hmm?

I'm not a subscriber to the Examiner newspaper so couldn't do a search for the article. Saw it posted on this news aggregator website. It starts about four minutes in after the Steve Bannon feature.

Hmmmmm, sounds like you better get on the "Q" website. You'll be a hero with your information.
Old 08-04-2019, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrw-500 View Post
I saw that detail about the Mexican lady, the original article from the Associated Press is saved on Archive.today.

An other saved copy of the same article don't mention the Mexican lady.
Police: Deaths, injuries in Texas shopping complex shooting

This conflicting information bring more confusion on the table....
One of the videos in the Daily Mail link that Rankin provided in a post on this thread is an interview with that Mexican lady. It includes subtitles in english.
Old 08-04-2019, 06:34 PM
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The poor kid (shooter) ....he lived in a McMansion in a high class neighborhood in TX with a swimming pool, jogging trails and wealthy neighbors. It must have been so hard sitting in the A/C and causing the internet and watching the Big Screen TV....that he just flipped out.

Nothing at all in his life that would inform this...well, except the gun culture and stuff like infowars and right wing news and web sites...and Trump and all the rest.

At that age one is not mature enough to know that people lie for $$$...and also not smart enough to turn the channel and know how to direct their energy.

At the same time it would not surprise me to hear that some of his family or relatives talk a certain way. We'll see......what the real "mental illness" here is.
Old 08-04-2019, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ1988 View Post
All the trump haters are a joke. That moron Obamabutt was the worst thing this country saw.
Such an precocious way to elucidate your position. Bet your mama is proud.
Old 08-04-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
They are all orchestrated and presented on the mass media as an argument to disarm the American people.
And yet, is it not true you can kill more ‘innocent’ people with a fuel-air explosive (gasoline left to evaporate)? Why aren’t psychopaths and depraved mass murderers using easily accessible gasoline?
There is no political agenda for denying people gasoline, that’s why.
So you will hear endless references to “assault like” weapons, and photographs of “scary looking” guns and the inference that guns are dangerous, and by denying access to them, the sheeple will be safer. It’s partly true, those who commit crimes will feel far safer with a disarmed populace.
But the real reason is that an armed population fears no government, whereas a disarmed population fears all government. Guess which one is the goal?
Yes, this is the mentality in "prepperland". the government wants to disarm you so it has 21 year olds get guns and shoot up walmarts. Anyone knows a real 21 year old bent on killing multiple people would be using a 'gasoline" bomb.

the problem is this country is that there are too many people like you who are given power beyond their own votes through the NRA.

We should not be making public policy based on the desires of overgrown paranoid children to be prepared to live out Red Dawn.
Old 08-04-2019, 07:08 PM
Location: sumter
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
If only he could have talked to antifa and abortion supporters, he would value life
They have nothing to do with this white racist shooter, stay on topic.
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