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Old 08-05-2019, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...n-our-schools/

Bet he means Christian prayer. Pretty sure he doesn't want Muslim prayers five times a day. Did he say he just wanted Christian prayers?

Regardless, what an asinine statement to make! The problem is unrestricted access to guns Unrestricted? There are already plenty or restrictions on the books regarding purchasing firearms., the problem is the radicalization of white Christian youth I didn't realize that the shootings were due to Christian ideology. Where did you get that bit of info?, the problem is lack of mental health screening. I agree with the lack of mental health screening, but how many of the past shooters was diagnosed with a mental illness prior to committing murder?

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I see the entertainment industry, both Hollywood and the gaming industries who both glorify violence and death, get a free ride while evil prayer is asinine.

 
Old 08-05-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...n-our-schools/

Bet he means Christian prayer. Pretty sure he doesn't want Muslim prayers five times a day.

Regardless, what an asinine statement to make! The problem is unrestricted access to guns, the problem is the radicalization of white Christian youth, the problem is lack of mental health screening.

Not some flippin' Republican's wish list of a Christian Taliban nation.

When will politicians start addressing the gun problem. I am a gun owner, but I want safe storage laws, I want training laws, and most of all, I want screening laws as to WHO buys guns. Effective ones. Not the namby pamby drivel that some are proposing, or worse yet, nothing at all.
While I am not a Christian nor religious, anyone with any sense can understand the point he is making. The cause of these sort of shootings is a lack of moral compass and moral education, with many young people being raised without being taught that their actions have consequences.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 05:32 AM
 
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I wish that were true however many Democrat politicians have been the most vocal about it. Every time there is a sensationalized shooting they're the first one's calling for some type of ban or the other. While demonizing anyone who dares challenging them. They're always looking to place the blame on everyone and everything but the shooter. With the exception of John Chafee (R) RINO from Rhode Island, I've got plenty of quotes to prove the Democrats' general hostility towards the 2nd Amendment and those of us that support it. There are plenty of them on this forum as well.

I don't doubt that many Democrats including yourself are gun owner's too. Along with owning those evil semi automatic rifles that you've listed. Using the word "evil" I'm being sarcastic of course. But I can't for the life of me understand why any gun owner would want to vote for any Democrat? Especially those in today's Democrat Party? As you will be voting against your own interests. Once the 2nd Amendment goes the others are sure to follow. Unfortunately politics and 2nd Amendment issues are inseparable. You can choose to ignore them at your own peril.

Unfortunately civility has indeed ceased between the two opposing sides. All I really care about is preserving our Constitutional Republic from those who wish to turn this country into an unbridled Democracy. Where the majority rules regardless of political affiliation. Or turn this country into a socialist aristocracy of which only a few oligarch's will have absolute power and control. That's pretty much what California and New York have become. Both states are hopelessly and irrevocably controlled by Democrats.

I've read your posts and have no reason to put you on my ignore list. I only reserve that for those that choose to continuously use derogatory name calling to bolster their positions. Since that's all they've got they're not even worth responding to.
Not that it matters that much but (from your quote that is not showing up in my quote), Pete Stark is no longer a rep.

Swalwell has Stark's old seat.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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Prayer has power. It is wise to pray for this nation, especially when it is in the condition it is in. Obviously kids lack of prayer in school did not cause this shooter to do what he did. That was caused by sin in our world. Can prayer prevent this kind of violence? Absolutely!
Well stated.

Prayer, Christianity, Wholesomeness, Decency, Being taught Responsibility, Accountability, Love, Respect, Morality, etc all add up to a Positive well-rounded Country.

I've watched this Country slide backwards right before my eyes. Many think they all have the answer.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 05:54 AM
 
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Ah yes the oft touted "power of prayer", AKA the placebo effect.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:02 AM
 
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Prayer has power. It is wise to pray for this nation, especially when it is in the condition it is in. Obviously kids lack of prayer in school did not cause this shooter to do what he did. That was caused by sin in our world. Can prayer prevent this kind of violence? Absolutely!
Oh, puh-leeze!

You have the right to believe whatever you wish, of course, but if prayer worked, would we be in the mess we are in now? MANY people have prayed for peace and love between nations, and look at us.

Y'know, it always cracks me up when people say that God is all-knowing and everything He/She/It does is part of a Divine Plan, and yet some of these same people say that we can change His/Her/Its mind if we just pray enough.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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How come you count that as the First one and not the numerous shootings of black Americans in the early 20th century and Native Americans in the 19th century?
EXCELLENT point!!
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:05 AM
 
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Because mass knifings and mass car crashes are oh so prevalent in other countries?

Funny other countries don't have the mass shooting problems that the US has. They have mentally ill people. They have video games. And in many, they have guns. Not just the silly non-gun laws that the USA has.
Australia is a perfect example.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:05 AM
 
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Ah c'mon. Prayer is great. With prayer, I can FEEL like I did something good about a problem without going to all the hard work of, you know, ACTUALLY doing something about it.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...n-our-schools/

Bet he means Christian prayer. Pretty sure he doesn't want Muslim prayers five times a day.

Regardless, what an asinine statement to make! The problem is unrestricted access to guns, the problem is the radicalization of white Christian youth, the problem is lack of mental health screening.

Not some flippin' Republican's wish list of a Christian Taliban nation.

When will politicians start addressing the gun problem. I am a gun owner, but I want safe storage laws, I want training laws, and most of all, I want screening laws as to WHO buys guns. Effective ones. Not the namby pamby drivel that some are proposing, or worse yet, nothing at all.
Lack of respect for God is part of our problem, don't kid yourself. It's not the only answer, but it's a contributory factor.
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