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Old 08-05-2019, 06:22 AM
 
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https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...n-our-schools/

Bet he means Christian prayer. Pretty sure he doesn't want Muslim prayers five times a day.

Regardless, what an asinine statement to make! The problem is unrestricted access to guns, the problem is the radicalization of white Christian youth, the problem is lack of mental health screening.

Not some flippin' Republican's wish list of a Christian Taliban nation.

When will politicians start addressing the gun problem. I am a gun owner, but I want safe storage laws, I want training laws, and most of all, I want screening laws as to WHO buys guns. Effective ones. Not the namby pamby drivel that some are proposing, or worse yet, nothing at all.
I am so embarrassed as a Texan when I hear and see the stupid, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic comments by people in Texas government...

 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Prayer has power. It is wise to pray for this nation, especially when it is in the condition it is in. Obviously kids lack of prayer in school did not cause this shooter to do what he did. That was caused by sin in our world. Can prayer prevent this kind of violence? Absolutely!
There has always been sin in the world.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:24 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Or do you prefer being spoon-fed what to think?

Warning, if you DO read it, you will distrust the media even more than you currently do. (I didn’t think that was possible for me, but voila!)

I swear— I would rather have one of my kids tell me that they’ve become a ***** or meth dealer than find out that they’re working for the media......
Don't need to. I know what's going on. I live in the DC area.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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When reading about the Royal Canadian Mounted Police ran across an article on why Canada decided on a police force rather than an army to bring Canadian rule to their prairie lands.

Author wrote that Canadians just didn't have the stomach for massacring people that Americans did.

Americans were fine with massacring Native Americans. Massacring African-Americans? No problem. Whites were, after all, God's chosen people.

But white people getting massacred?

Whoa doggies!
Actually these in El Paso were supposed to be “brown” victims...
Which is OK with plenty of people on the alt-right side...
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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There has always been sin in the world.
That’s not a reason to cultivate more of it...

Thou shalt not kill...
Love your neighbor as yourself
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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There are a lot of reasons for all this gun violence, in the ghetto and in suburbia. Part of it is the lack of Christian teaching in the home, as it once was, but there are other reasons, like the parenting the child had.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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What’s the objective criteria to determine who is bats**** crazy?

We know nothing thus far to suggest the El Paso shooter was bats*** crazy?

Take a look at Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter. He was a social misfit. There are tens of millions of social misfits and they don’t engage in mass shooting. He owned a lot of fire arms. So do a lot of people.

So please share exactly what constitutes bars*** crazy.
Recommending that the U.S. lock up folks because of what they might do is "bats*** crazy."

So let's start there.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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What’s the objective criteria to determine who is bats**** crazy?

We know nothing thus far to suggest the El Paso shooter was bats*** crazy?

Take a look at Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter. He was a social misfit. There are tens of millions of social misfits and they don’t engage in mass shooting. He owned a lot of fire arms. So do a lot of people.

So please share exactly what constitutes bars*** crazy.
I think that you have identified the main problem.

How are people who might commit violence on innocent people identified? Many people who commit atrocities had not show obvious symptoms beforehand, so how do we separate the seriously disturbed ones from those who are "only" mildly disturbed? Should every high school student be required to undertake an intensive psychological evaluation? And, if so, what should be done with those who don't "pass"?

And even if they CAN be identified, it is sometimes difficult to persuade people to get help because some people are very resistant to that. So, should we forcibly remove people from society who MIGHT commit violence?

I don't have the answers to this, but I think it is time for people smarter than I am to start discussing such things.

And to be clear, I am personally against locking people up based on "might", but I also think that something needs to be done, but I am not sure what -- maybe have some kind of monitoring going on? (I just threw that out there, btw, because I am not sure that even that would do any good.)

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Old 08-05-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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A common thread appears to be white nationalism.

Perhaps we could start by locking up all those who support white nationalism.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...n-our-schools/

Bet he means Christian prayer. Pretty sure he doesn't want Muslim prayers five times a day.

Regardless, what an asinine statement to make! The problem is unrestricted access to guns, the problem is the radicalization of white Christian youth, the problem is lack of mental health screening.

Not some flippin' Republican's wish list of a Christian Taliban nation.

When will politicians start addressing the gun problem. I am a gun owner, but I want safe storage laws, I want training laws, and most of all, I want screening laws as to WHO buys guns. Effective ones. Not the namby pamby drivel that some are proposing, or worse yet, nothing at all.

It's no different than your statement.....
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