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Old 08-03-2019, 02:42 PM
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
Not a Muslim.
Is this another Trump-inspired white supremacist? With ear protection.
Norstroms, or the GAP, but WallyWorld?

Old 08-03-2019, 02:42 PM
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by TinaTwo View Post
Fox has great coverage now. Lots of eyewitness interviews. Oddly the shooter was captured alive which is rare in these types of incidents.
ALL three cable news are covering it and interviewing people- sometimes the same people. They are also interviewing LE about their thoughts on what’s going on.

MSNBC announced the suspect is 21 years old.

Fox is reporting the shooter used a semi- automatic.

Initial reports are not always correct.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by texan2yankee View Post
I attended a rock concert at a downtown venue a week ago and made a mental note of where the exits were in case of a terrorist attack while waiting for the group to perform. That scenario had never entered my mind before last week.

What scary times we live in....
Some employers give this training. DH worked a couple years as an appraisal review board person in our county. All the employees in that building had the training.

The minute you enter, figure out the exits and/or where to take cover.

He told our kids and grandkids.

Women sometimes are a little bit more familiar since we are taught to always be aware of our surroundings and to always be checking our environment.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:45 PM
Location: California
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
ALL three cable news are covering it and interviewing people- sometimes the same people.
Yes , I checked CNN but prefer Fox. To me their coverage was better. Iím sure thereís a network for everyone.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:47 PM
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Had this very conversation with a long-time friend recently over the plan to arm school teachers.

He is also a self-proclaimed gun nut. Has two gun safes and it is only because his wife put her foot down that he doesn't have three. I suspect he is carrying nearly all the time. He spends one night a week cleaning various guns and one weekend a month at a gun range.

He was in the military before deciding to be a high school teacher, and is clear that he would never pull out a gun during a mass shooting at his school, and thought it was a stupid idea to arm teachers.

In the first place, he should be focused on his students, getting them to safety.

Secondly, there is a world of difference between the gun range and a gun battle.

And third, he was as likely to get shot by the cops as not.

He had guns in case someone tried to attack him or his family. Other than that, he let the folks who were trained for the task handle matters.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
If everyone had a gun in the mall what would you expect other than more friendly fire shootings, how would anyone determine the shooter. This is Texas by the way, we will wait to see if there were concealed carry holders.
No one will ever know how many in the store and vicinity were armed.

Most of those who survived will never be identified, let alone searched.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by ladybug07 View Post
We have a friend who carries everywhere. He usually has one of his units shirts or hats on all the time lol! If I'm out anywhere and saw someone like him, he would be the one I would want to be behind or around because he's a pretty damn good shot and he can take care of first aid too.
In the chaos that ensues an active shooter situation, you will not be running around looking for stranger with a rifle or gun. You don't know who nor how many are actively shooting. That's just poppycock... and fool hardy.

and the last thing I'd do is hide behind someone who isn't trained or disciplined when brandishing a firearm....
Old 08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
Location: Charlotte NC
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Manifesto blamed the Mexican invasion.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
Location: Austin
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Fox news says the shooter is a 21 year old and captured alive. He is likely an American born, white male.

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Old 08-03-2019, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
The answer will be we need more guns.
Texas is high on gun ownership and gun rights.
Whether it is Chicago or Texas does not seem to make a lick of difference.

Top 4 states with registered weapons.
Texas 637,612
Florida 377,207
California 358,223
Virginia 328,010
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