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Old 08-07-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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They want you to read that crap to get a name for themselves.

 
Old 08-07-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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OP, that’s not the EL Paso manifesto.

Here’s the first page of the manifesto, with clear documentation of where the killer obtained his ramblings from, aka right-wing media.

He’s clearly alt-right; and all you alt-righters gaslighting that he’s a progressive can go Fork themselves.



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People aren’t nearly as vindictive as your media tells you they are. (Or as much as you’d like to think they’d act similarly to you........)

Not to mention you probably read the manifest posted by the OP, which was the wrong manifesto.

OP posted parts of the manifesto that you intentionally left out.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...o-manifest.jpg

http://www.city-data.com/forum/55870597-post46.html

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Old 08-07-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: AZ
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It was obviously just the first page (which was annotated, unlike your versions), which was more than enough to prove my point. Nothing intentional left out.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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It was obviously just the first page, which was more than enough to prove my point. Nothing intentional left out.
So now you take back your claims that he posted the wrong manifesto? Why did you lie about it?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: AZ
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So now you take back your claims that he posted the wrong manifesto? Why did you lie about it?
He had originally, and even the OP made a post stating so. (Post #49)

Nice try though; Care to actually address the topic being discussed?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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He had originally, and even the OP made a post stating so. (Post #49)

Nice try though; Care to actually address the topic being discussed?
One hour ago you posted that OP was not the El Paso manifesto, which it clearly is. Why would you lie?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: AZ
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One hour ago you posted that OP was not the El Paso manifesto, which it clearly is. Why would you lie?
Are you incapable of reading post 49? (...seemingly so.) When I posted my image the OP’s initial post containing the wrong manifest, had not been changed.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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People aren’t nearly as vindictive as your media tells you they are. (Or as much as you’d like to think they’d act similarly to you........)

Not to mention you probably read the manifest posted by the OP, which was the wrong manifesto.
The voting process is an act of violence. People vote, left and right, against other people. They want the government to punish someone for something, because they think that will make their life better.

This guy simply cut out the middleman of government, and did his vengeful act with his own two hands. He identified "the problem" as he sees it, then put his "solution" into action.

Voters do the same thing all the time, right and left and all points in between, based on what politicians promise to do to others on their behalf. Look at either party's platform. Chock full of the people they are going to punish on your behalf. Some foreign, some domestic, some rich, some poor, but they have been identified and your chosen representative is going to make them pay.

And the reasoning is virtually identical. Breaking a few eggs to make the "better society" omelet. He broke eggs with bullets, politicians break them with fines, penalties, imprisonment, confiscation....and when they feel like it, bullets, bombs, drones, missiles, etc. Again, a difference of degree, not kind. Politicians usurp rights all the time, and so did this guy. He just went after the right to life, but it's not like politicians really give a damn about that, just ask the victims of drone strikes, foreign invasion, abortion and police killings.

People vote for that. They cast votes to have government do bad things to people all the time. If you had voted for this guy to shoot up a WalMart, it would have been no different than voting for Obama or Trump to zap somebody with a drone.

It's all the same. People assuming powers/rights they do not have and using those assumed powers/rights to initiate force against the innocent....in the name of some amorphous "common good."

The difference between you and I is that I can see both as evil, and you for some reason give a pass to the state doing it and the voters for getting behind it.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: AZ
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The voting process is an act of violence. People vote, left and right, against other people. They want the government to punish someone for something, because they think that will make their life better.

This guy simply cut out the middleman of government, and did his vengeful act with his own two hands. He identified "the problem" as he sees it, then put his "solution" into action.

Voters do the same thing all the time, right and left and all points in between, based on what politicians promise to do to others on their behalf. Look at either party's platform. Chock full of the people they are going to punish on your behalf. Some foreign, some domestic, some rich, some poor, but they have been identified and your chosen representative is going to make them pay.

And the reasoning is virtually identical. Breaking a few eggs to make the "better society" omelet. He broke eggs with bullets, politicians break them with fines, penalties, imprisonment, confiscation....and when they feel like it, bullets, bombs, drones, missiles, etc. Again, a difference of degree, not kind. Politicians usurp rights all the time, and so did this guy. He just went after the right to life, but it's not like politicians really give a damn about that, just ask the victims of drone strikes, foreign invasion, abortion and police killings.

People vote for that. They cast votes to have government do bad things to people all the time. If you had voted for this guy to shoot up a WalMart, it would have been no different than voting for Obama or Trump to zap somebody with a drone.

It's all the same. People assuming powers/rights they do not have and using those assumed powers/rights to initiate force against the innocent....in the name of some amorphous "common good."

The difference between you and I is that I can see both as evil, and you for some reason give a pass to the state doing it and the voters for getting behind it.
Bahahahahahaha “the voting process is an an act of violence”....I’m not even going to bother responding to a post starting out with that. Libertarian nonsense.


That’s some strong stuff you got there.....
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Bahahahahahaha “the voting process is an an act of violence”....I’m not even going to bother responding to a post starting out with that. Libertarian nonsense.
Logical consistency is tough to defeat. No shame in not trying, especially considering the position of inconsistency you operate from.
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