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View Poll Results: Beto O'Rourke: Trump's 'racism' leads to violence like El Paso mass shooting
Yes 80 32.65%
No 158 64.49%
Other 7 2.86%
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Old Today, 01:11 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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YOU have the gall to claim an understanding of Nazi Germany and the history of that period???
YOU have repeatedly equated Trump to Hitler!
YOU have repeatedly equated the situation of "Latinos" here with the genocide of the Jews!
YOU have absolutely NO moral right to comment whatsoever on the nature of Hitler and Nazi Germany.

You proudly describe yourself as a leftist. You purport to represent leftism. Therefore I have practically begged the leftists on this forum to denounce your despicable views. None have done so. If you, by any stretch of the imagination, are an indication of the fate of this nation if the left gains more power, then this nation is in dire straits. Tragically, it seems that you indeed are the face of the left.
Hehe, cool down No, I am not the face of the left, I do have some conservative views. I am not as simple as most Americans are who either are 100% left or 100% right. I pick the best from both sides, and freely reject and criticize what I don't like about both sides. That's why I don't take Trump supporters seriously, I never hear them criticize Trump.

It was an analogy, I have not mentioned a genocide. My analogy merely means that Trump hates minorities, especially Latinos, the way Hitler hated Jews. And who knows what would happen to those migrants from Latin America if there were no political system and press to keep Trump at bay...
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Old Today, 01:19 PM
 
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Hehe, cool down No, I am not the face of the left, I do have some conservative views. I am not as simple as most Americans are who either are 100% left or 100% right. I pick the best from both sides, and freely reject and criticize what I don't like about both sides. That's why I don't take Trump supporters seriously, I never hear them criticize Trump.

It was an analogy, I have not mentioned a genocide. My analogy merely means that Trump hates minorities, especially Latinos, the way Hitler hated Jews. And who knows what would happen to those migrants from Latin America if there were no political system and press to keep Trump at bay...
Oh for Pete's sake! The very fact that you would claim that Trump hates minorities the way Hitler hated Jews just screams "I'm a deranged liberal who has bought into the white supremacy lie."
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Old Today, 01:27 PM
 
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Agree? The shooters manifesto was supportive of trump and his dog whistles to white supremacists has been known for years, as is support from David Duke

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/03/polit...nce/index.html
Well, to start with Trump isn't racist. Maybe beto should look in the mirror.
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Old Today, 01:30 PM
 
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It was an analogy, I have not mentioned a genocide. My analogy merely means that Trump hates minorities, especially Latinos, the way Hitler hated Jews.
Trump loves minorities, especially Latinos.

Maybe you are the Hitler in this day. You hate Trump supporters like Hitler hated Jews. So yes, you are like Hitler.
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Old Today, 01:32 PM
 
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The writings of Beto:

“Then one day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. I knew, however, that this happiness and sense of freedom were much too overwhelming for them.

“This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams. As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bet...g-group-report
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Old Today, 01:33 PM
 
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Oh for Pete's sake! The very fact that you would claim that Trump hates minorities the way Hitler hated Jews just screams "I'm a deranged liberal who has bought into the white supremacy lie."
and how...

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Trump loves minorities, especially Latinos.

Maybe you are the Hitler in this day. You hate Trump supporters like Hitler hated Jews. So yes, you are like Hitler.
yeah, makes just as much sense as neuling's analogy.
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Old Today, 01:37 PM
 
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The writings of Beto:

“Then one day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. I knew, however, that this happiness and sense of freedom were much too overwhelming for them.

“This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams. As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bet...g-group-report
^^^ if nothing else, this alone should disqualify him. Very, very disturbed....sociopathic in fact.

By comparison, my fantasies in high school had to do with the cute boy who sat in front of me in Algebra.
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Old Today, 01:38 PM
 
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Some do. Some don't. Hitler and the Nazis have far more commonalities with left-wing rather than right-wing ideologies.
No, it isn't. Kennedy was discussing the power of combining individuals' strengths, NOT expecting individuals to subjugate their own best interest to subsidize collectivists' goals. For example, Kennedy cut federal income tax rates dramatically, thereby allowing individuals to keep more of the money they earned.
The overwhelming majority of historians consider him right-wing, not just some.

Hitler also reduced taxes for the lower and middle classes.

Hitlers "socialism" was ultimately about the Volksgemeinschaft, the unified people, which was in turn based on the illusion of one harmonic people based on a common race.

Originally, like in 1920, the Nazi socialism still contained socialist elements such as the nationalization of big companies, but Hitler permanently turned to the extreme right when he had Röhm and his leadership killed, because those indeed wanted to implement the socialist elements, while Hitler wanted to get the support of corporate Germany.

The full Hitler quote you posted a part of:
It is thus necessary that the individual should finally come to realize that his own pride is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole; that pride and conceitedness, the feeling that the individual ... is superior, so far from being merely laughable, involve great dangers for the existence of the community that is a nation; that above all the unity of a nation’s spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and the will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of interests of the individual. ... By this we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men.

Not that I fully subscribe to that, sounds too extreme for my taste, just saying...
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Old Today, 01:40 PM
 
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Trump loves minorities, especially Latinos.

Maybe you are the Hitler in this day. You hate Trump supporters like Hitler hated Jews. So yes, you are like Hitler.
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Oh for Pete's sake! The very fact that you would claim that Trump hates minorities the way Hitler hated Jews just screams "I'm a deranged liberal who has bought into the white supremacy lie."
He has a long history (since the 70s) of racist remarks and behaviors. I posted a link earlier...
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Old Today, 01:47 PM
 
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The overwhelming majority of historians consider him right-wing, not just some.
Only if you agree with the lie that 97% of scientists agree that there's anthropogenic global warming.

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Hitler also reduced taxes for the lower and middle classes.
Kennedy reduced the tax bracket rate for high-income earners from 91% to 70%.

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Hitlers "socialism" was ultimately about the Volksgemeinschaft, the unified people, which was in turn based on the illusion of one harmonic people based on a common race.

Originally, like in 1920, the Nazi socialism still contained socialist elements such as the nationalization of big companies, but Hitler permanently turned to the extreme right when he had Röhm and his leadership killed, because those indeed wanted to implement the socialist elements, while Hitler wanted to get the support of corporate Germany.
German corporations did not support Hitler's heavy-handed regulations.
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The full Hitler quote you posted a part of:
It is thus necessary that the individual should finally come to realize that his own pride is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole; that pride and conceitedness, the feeling that the individual ... is superior, so far from being merely laughable, involve great dangers for the existence of the community that is a nation; that above all the unity of a nation’s spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and the will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of interests of the individual. ... By this we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men.

Not that I fully subscribe to that, sounds too extreme for my taste, just saying...
Yes, that's typically how left-wing socialists dehumanize and demoralize their subjects. The individual has no value on their own, they're only useful as a worker bee subsidizing the collective society, the goals of which are determined by the state.
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