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View Poll Results: Beto O'Rourke: Trump's 'racism' leads to violence like El Paso mass shooting
Yes 26 37.14%
No 42 60.00%
Other 2 2.86%
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Old Today, 01:00 AM
 
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Let's clear some things up.

1.) The shooter is 100% at fault and the blame belongs on him, not Trump.

2.) Blaming Trump for this tragedy is delusional.

3.) Trump is NOT racist. He has every right to secure the border.
While I don't know to what degree you can measure Trump's racism, I do agree border security is important. Now how we do it (the way some of those kids get treated in those detention centers is horrid) is its own issue.
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the shooters manifesto was against the mixing or races...not a supremacist…...his manifesto also wanted population control...a leftist viewpoint.....universal healthcare…. a leftist viewpoint..... and....universal basic income (like yang's idea)...again a leftist viewpoint

leftism is proven once again to be closer to terrorism than its not
If one actually reads the manifesto, it's easy to see it's full of left-wing ideology.
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Beto blaming this on Trump's racism starts the process of not getting anything done about gun violence this time either. I don't know what the answer is. But doing things the way we have been doing them obviously is not working. And one thing we as a nation do after every shooting is to go ahead and start placing blame before the dead are in the ground. Beto's rhetoric does not do a thing to cure what ills us.

Again, I have no answers. I freely admit that. But doing the same damn thing over and over gain is obviously failing

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Old Today, 03:16 AM
 
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Well according to Beto Obama was responsible for killing five Dallas police officers and injuring nine others then. This is all so stupid, no one is responsible except for the shooters themselves.
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Old Today, 03:23 AM
 
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Clearly illegals aren't the problem with killing lots of people. Need a Trump supporter for that. The data supports illegals committing crimes at a lower rate than citizens.

This Trump deplorable probably killed more people in one day than illegals will kill all year
Actually you fit the deplorable category perfectly with this comment. No need to read anything else you write... you are blinded by hate.
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Old Today, 05:08 AM
 
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Of course not. It's a convenient "political" excuse of course but this guy had issues going way back. He needed something to obsess about and focus his rage on and it's no more about Trump than it is about people claiming it's about Trump, which is just as much a dog whistle as anything else.
Manufacturing grievances for unhappy folks, stirring anger and fear among citizens and telling voters who to blame for that unhappiness, anger and fear is Donald Trump's MO. Claiming this murderer needed something upon which to obsess is exactly about focusing his rage to use your words. Trump's rhetoric and utilization of racism and xenophobia to garner votes and power provides focus and validation to those who seek superiority.

The President of the United States of America is handing Americans of differing ethnicities and color and religion over to other Americans as targets for the rage and hatred and fear he himself unabashedly sows.

It seems we live in a world where the distance between bigotry and bullets is miniscule.
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Old Today, 05:15 AM
 
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What did Trump say about immigrants coming from Mexico again? The shooter expressed support for Trump and his policies whether you'll care to admit that or not:

Crusius’ social media accounts were all taken down relatively quickly but not before some were able to detect that he liked a lot of alt-right content. He liked tweets that had the #BuildtheWall hashtag as well as “a photo using guns to spell out ‘Trump,’ and posts from Paul Joseph Watson, a far-right Youtuber who works with Alex Jones at InfoWars,” notes the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Trump said they're not their best people - and that's true. The educated and middle class are staying in Central American, and the semi-literate and impoverished are the ones flooding the borders with false claims of asylum. We already have nearly half the people in this country not paying taxes, and once the Democrats allow enough migrants here, and they have anchor babies, we will have a situation where the majority of people are net takers - voting to take money from the minority of self-supporting citizens paying taxes. And that will be the end of the Relublic (to paraphrase Jefferson).
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Old Today, 05:16 AM
 
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Agree? The shooters manifesto was supportive of trump and his dog whistles to white supremacists has been known for years, as is support from David Duke

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/03/polit...nce/index.html
This is just the beginning. It's the unfortunate reaction to a government that isn't securing our borders.
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Old Today, 05:23 AM
 
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Clearly illegals aren't the problem with killing lots of people. Need a Trump supporter for that. The data supports illegals committing crimes at a lower rate than citizens.

This Trump deplorable probably killed more people in one day than illegals will kill all year
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Actually you fit the deplorable category perfectly with this comment. No need to read anything else you write... you are blinded by hate.
Agree. Leftists defend illegal aliens and condemn their fellow citizens who voted for Trump.

It is the #2 reason that Trump will win - the leftists' eagerness to show they care more about foreigners who break into our country than American citizens. (Number 1 is that the Progressive Democrats' country-destroying proposals will be rejected by all but the greedy ignorant and the liberal elitists.)
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Old Today, 05:28 AM
 
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This is just the beginning. It's the unfortunate reaction to a government that isn't securing our borders.
True, and Beto is encouraging it. Americans are opposed to illegal aliens coming here and refusing to learn English. So what does he do? He holds a press conference speaking Spanish so foreigners who won't learn the language can understand him - and American citizens don't know what he said.
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