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Old 08-04-2019, 04:32 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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What hateful rhetoric? To Dems, saying “illegal immigration” is bad is “hateful rhetoric”
The El Paso shooter posted his Manifesto. He comes off as a white separatist. I'd advise you to read it if there is a discussion about him.

I find it disgusting that people immediately make these events political. The vast majority of People in either Dems and Reps parties aren't mass murderers no matter much you disagree with their politics.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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No..he wasn't. You affiliate every year when you vote. And you can change affiliation each year.

I lived and voted in Texas for over 20 years so stop with the BS.
You are confusing the mass murderers. It's easy to do since these are a weekly occurrence.

The Ohio murderer was registered Democrat, the Texas one only voted Democrat in the last election.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Well, I don't think a place like Texas has gun laws. They can carry guns around in public! Can you imagine going into a town and people are walking around with guns on them, as if it's 1775 and we are having a revolution? I cannot imagine going into a Walmart and being around people who think it's cool to wear guns.

Here in MA and CT, we have strict gun laws and we have two of the safest states. The main thing we'd worry about was someone from a gun addicted state coming here and shooting people. I am getting so fed up with these people that I just wish they would stay out of our states. Stay where they belong, back in the 1700s when we actually needed our own grassroots militia.
Vermont and Maine have much more liberal gun laws. Are they less safe than Mass and CT? Can't they go into a town and walk around with guns on them like the 1700's?
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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That's why I don't go to bars. Even as a child I heard enough stories about people getting shot in bars. Alcohol and guns don't mix.
People and guns don't mix.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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I don't understand how he got there to the bar/liquor store/whatever.

He went, with his sister and her boyfriend, in the wee hours, while he was carrying an assault rifle and wearing a bullet proof vest?

So I guess he had all that stuff in the trunk, and at some point decided to use it that night? I wonder how many other nights he thought about doing this and just didn't?

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/na...9-c8f842fd93b7
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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So I guess he had all that stuff in the trunk, and at some point decided to use it that night? I wonder how many other nights he thought about doing this and just didn't?
Maybe the "other guy" who was with him and his sister, who was injured but survived, can help shed was light on his mindset and what happened?

I heard a report that while in high school Betts created some sort of "hit list" of people he didn't like and had angry issues with women who rejected him, sounds like a nut case.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:57 PM
Status: "JESUS CHRIST IS LORD" (set 8 days ago)
 
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Really? What does an Antifa terrorist look like? Can you find an illustration for us of a member of Antifa in uniform, or maybe provide a link?

Also - why would an Antifa member write a xenophobic and racist manifesto? Antifa is anti-fascist, not anti-immigrant. Thanks for your answers in advance.
There are numerous videos of ANTIFA members attacking Trump supporters on YT. Go there and search and if YT hasn't fiddled with their search mode you will see for yourself. Not going to do the work for you. Antifa have been around awhile.
Latest I've heard is the shooter is a Progressive Leftist. I'll post more when I find more information. Haven't caught up in the thread so it may already be posted here.
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Old 08-04-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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Really? What does an Antifa terrorist look like? Can you find an illustration for us of a member of Antifa in uniform, or maybe provide a link?
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Your news is censored so you wouldn't know
Plenty of videos on youtube showing Antifa attacking conservatives.
Latest attack. Victim hired a good attorney to sue the city.

Antifa have their own flag modeled after the Nazi flag.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019...d-protest.html


https://browse.startpage.com/do/show...661f&t=default
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Old 08-04-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm not directly blaming Trump for either event but his constant hateful rhetoric certainly isn't helpful, his voting record is a weal attempt to deflect from Trump but this is all you have.
What rhetoric is hateful exactly? You can post examples of anything you think would trigger a shooter.
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Old 08-04-2019, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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The Dayton killer was a democrat Satanist.

Who loved Elizabeth Warren.

Please denounce Warren.

This is 4th democrat shooter this year not including El Paso guy who was close
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