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Old Yesterday, 05:12 PM
 
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Something weird about this one. There is another guy with the same name and whose sister has the same name as this guy. They even look similar. What the hell is the Deep State playing at?
Of course because now it is clear there was no political motivation , now we move to the conspiracy portion of the program.
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Old Yesterday, 05:17 PM
 
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Obvious mental illness- supported Warren, socialism, antifa fanboy
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Old Yesterday, 06:11 PM
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They didn't do a very good job of hiding him.

Again - you have to own that your bias makes you see or not see what you want.

The Dayton shooter could be a Democrat but we have nothing to suggest his actions were politically motivated - -not yet.

And the fact that folks are so desperate for this to be a politically driven shooting suggests that there is more concern about keeping score than the violence in general.


No offense, but it isn't people on the right running to the first reporter they can find to blame one of their political opponents the minute violence like this occurs. There are actual politicians who ought to know better that are literally blaming Trump for the actions of a deranged lunatic. Do you not see how irresponsible and with all due respect...hypocritical...for Democratic politicians and those on the left to lecture others about caring more about "keeping score" than violence?

A hardcore Bernie supporter literally tried to assassinate a handful of Republican congressman on a baseball field yet Steve Scalise, the Republic who came closest to being killed went out of his way not to suggest that Bernie had anything to do with one of the violent act of one of his supporters. You also didn't see Republican congressman insisting that anti-Repiblican and anti-Trump rhetoric from those on the left was the major cause for the violent attack. The lengths many (not all) Trump hating Democrats have gone to tie almost every violent attack to Trump is beyond ridiculous.

If Democrats were TRULY concerned about "hateful" and reckless rhetoric leading to violence they would quit attributing every act of violence to Trump and all his supporters. Calling Trump Hitler and his supporters or anyone that doesn't tow the Democratic party line a fascist is as toxic and irresponsible as it gets.

99.9% of those on the left and right BOTH agree that racist, fascist, "nazi" propaganda should be shunned and met with resistance therefore no nonchalantly calling everyone who supports Trump or disagrees with the Democratic party policies a facist or a nazi is completely irresponsible.

The bottom line is that the issues that are leading to these violent acts are far more complex and deeper than absurd simplified "white supremacy". There is a cultural rot in this country that has nothing to do with political ideology that has far more to do with why these horrific acts are happening. It has been a growing problem FAR before Trump came into office. It's not a leff or right issue. Solving these problems (assuming people really care to solve them if winning political points isn't the goal) will take asking serious and honest questions about mental illness, etc.
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Old Yesterday, 07:10 PM
 
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Obvious mental illness- supported Warren, socialism, antifa fanboy
I just heard that. No wonder propaganda media has gone quiet. Doesn't fit their fake news narrative
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Old Yesterday, 07:29 PM
 
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No offense, but it isn't people on the right running to the first reporter they can find to blame one of their political opponents the minute violence like this occurs. There are actual politicians who ought to know better that are literally blaming Trump for the actions of a deranged lunatic. Do you not see how irresponsible and with all due respect...hypocritical...for Democratic politicians and those on the left to lecture others about caring more about "keeping score" than violence?

A hardcore Bernie supporter literally tried to assassinate a handful of Republican congressman on a baseball field yet Steve Scalise, the Republic who came closest to being killed went out of his way not to suggest that Bernie had anything to do with one of the violent act of one of his supporters. You also didn't see Republican congressman insisting that anti-Repiblican and anti-Trump rhetoric from those on the left was the major cause for the violent attack. The lengths many (not all) Trump hating Democrats have gone to tie almost every violent attack to Trump is beyond ridiculous.

If Democrats were TRULY concerned about "hateful" and reckless rhetoric leading to violence they would quit attributing every act of violence to Trump and all his supporters. Calling Trump Hitler and his supporters or anyone that doesn't tow the Democratic party line a fascist is as toxic and irresponsible as it gets.

99.9% of those on the left and right BOTH agree that racist, fascist, "nazi" propaganda should be shunned and met with resistance therefore no nonchalantly calling everyone who supports Trump or disagrees with the Democratic party policies a facist or a nazi is completely irresponsible.

The bottom line is that the issues that are leading to these violent acts are far more complex and deeper than absurd simplified "white supremacy". There is a cultural rot in this country that has nothing to do with political ideology that has far more to do with why these horrific acts are happening. It has been a growing problem FAR before Trump came into office. It's not a leff or right issue. Solving these problems (assuming people really care to solve them if winning political points isn't the goal) will take asking serious and honest questions about mental illness, etc.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying here, but you going way too light on Republicans. Both sides are just as bad with the blame.

Fact of the matter is everybody plays hot potato with the crazy each time this happens.

Crazy gonna crazy. Shooters are going to latch on the whatever rhetoric they find appealing to justify their actions. Sometimes itís political and sometimes its not. A lot of times itís muddled, because crazy often doesnít think clearly.

EVERYBODY these days is way too angry, and everybody is speaking as if the whole of the ďother sideĒ are awful people who are going to destroy the world as we know it. Thatís a lot of negative energy for crazy to feed on.
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Old Yesterday, 10:03 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Default Did liberal rhetoric play a part in the Dayton shootings?

So now we see that the shooter in Dayton was a radical leftist who supported Pocahontas and hated Trump, who felt even Biden wasn't liberal enough. He also supports Antifa.

Does the liberal media have blood on its hands for its rhetoric leading to this kind of environment where this young man would do that??? Likewise is the leftist rhetoric partly to blame for the attack on police in Baton Rouge in 2016 and on the Baltimore and Ferguson riots??? The media is always trying to blame Trump's "rhetoric" for any right wing violence.

So what about the leftist media and the Democrats like Beto, Pocahontas, AOC< etc???????
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Old Yesterday, 10:05 PM
 
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Yawn.... Lots of fake news, with no links. Sounds like the guy was a run of the mill bully obsessed with guns
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 PM
 
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By all means, if we’re to play by lefty’s handbook. Kind of strange (NOT) how msm hasnt delved into his background/computer etc
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I haven't heard one news outlet mention this except Fox, and to their credit they weren't blaming Warren for it.

Most of it is all slamming Trump and blaming him completely. It's a joke. Does MSM not realize half (or more) of the country realizes they might as well be watching Barney?

Say what you will about Trump, but the man has made a fool of the biased liberal media.
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Old Yesterday, 10:08 PM
 
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Say what you will about Trump, but the man has made a fool of the biased liberal media.
And all the fake news loving MAGA Trump supporters. Lyingest president in history
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