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View Poll Results: Climate change caused by humans is a real phenomenon
True 36 50.00%
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Old Today, 07:35 AM
 
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Idiots. In the 70’s it was Time magazine front page: The Big Freeze....and global cooling. Then it became global warming......then simply climate change. Next it’ll be global stagnation. Anything to make a buck.
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Old Today, 07:41 AM
 
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Itís possibly true. I think we need to keep studying it (with non-taxpayer funding). Not sure what can be done about it. Unless population is greatly reduced, it will continue. But try convincing people not to reproduce. Once we use up the infinite supply of fossil fuels, weíll see if it makes a difference. Green energy has itís limits. Nuclear power is unpopular. More underdeveloped countries are consuming more energy.

My big problem is the politicization of climate change by the Left. Instead of coming up with real solutions, they come up with dumb ideas like:

-Cash for clunkers: destroy perfectly good cars that poor people could afford
-Government subsidies for solar power companies that take the money and run
-Tax rebates for rich people who install geothermal systems on their mansions
-Electric cars that require electrical power from...fossil fuels. Rebates to wealthy people that can afford to buy them
-Deductible mortgage interest which encourages people to build bigger, more energy-consuming homes
-No tariff on imports from countries that have no pollution controls, while at the same time putting US companies out of business with onerous environmental regulations
-etc.
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Old Today, 07:45 AM
 
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And even if it is real, why is that necessarily bad? Because? Just because?


We can tell via fossil records that each time earth's temperature has risen, it had a direct correlation repeatedly, again and again, on expanding life. I mean not even linearly but exponentially. That's fact.


Why are climate wackos anti-life?
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Old Today, 08:42 AM
 
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Once again, the earths magnetic poles are shifting.
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-earth-...poles-flip.amp
We can stop trying trying to tax ourselves out of this.
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Old Today, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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If Man is affecting climate, what percentage is man made, and what percentage is Naturally occurring? What will the taxes on fossil fuels, carbon, and other items do to curtail the man made portion of climate change if there is one? If the Naturally Occurring Climate change increases as it has always done, will that negate anything man does to combat it?
The scientific evidence is that it is 100% human. Our impact is technically over 100% because without human impact the planet would actually be cooling slightly right now.
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Old Today, 09:19 AM
 
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Yes and no

I mean Earth goes through warm and cold cycles

However, do believe humankind as we progressed have sped up that process, caused some irreversible damage to the environment, and caused other damages to the environment that does/can lead to chain reaction of negative environmental event's.

With that said I support funding in finding eco friendly and sustainable energy sources. Same goes for energy sources for transportation and increase of public transportation.

Support soultions to minimize and balance urban sprawling.

Protect open spaces.

Plant more trees.

Utilize more biodegradable products and work towards not using any non-biodegrable products in the future.

Support sustainable farming techniques. Support use of GMO crops. Support unique farming techniques with minimal to no environmental impact.

Support research in reversing damage to the ice caps and ozone layer. Work towards restoring harmony of Mother Earth.

Support global initiative of space exploration.

Support global initiative in creating nuclear fusion as an energy source.

For the U.S. maintain Clean Air and Clean Water regulations.

Tax rebates for U.S. Businesses that ascertain various environmental friendly goals set up by the Government.

Make businesses that cause negative environmental impacts pay for clean up cost or pay back the Government for clean up cost.

Work with non profit agencies to better protect protected open spaces in the U.S.

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Old Today, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Yes and no

I mean Earth goes through warm and cold cycles

However, do believe humankind as we progressed have sped up that process, caused some irreversible damage to the environment, and caused other damages to the environment that does/can lead to chain reaction of negative environmental event's.

With that said I support funding in finding eco friendly and sustainable energy sources. Same goes for energy sources for transportation and increase of public transportation.

Support soultions to minimize and balance urban sprawling.

Protect open spaces.

Plant more trees.

Utilize more biodegradable products and work towards not using any non-biodegrable products in the future.

Support sustainable farming techniques. Support use of GMO crops. Support unique farming techniques with minimal to no environmental impact.

Support research in reversing damage to the ice caps and ozone layer. Work towards restoring harmony of Mother Earth.

Support global initiative of space exploration.

Support global initiative in creating nuclear fusion as an energy source.

For the U.S. maintain Clean Air and Clean Water regulations.

Tax rebates for U.S. Businesses that ascertain various environmental friendly goals set up by the Government.

Make businesses that cause negative environmental impacts pay for clean up cost or pay back the Government for clean up cost.

Work with non profit agencies to better protect protected open spaces in the U.S.
And all of these "suggestions" imply further expansion and empowerment of the environmental bureaurcracy so admired and praised by "global warming" zealots; we (or at least, the youngest, most impressionable, and least understanding of open-market economics) are being duped!

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Old Today, 11:06 AM
 
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Man burning releasing billions of tons of fossil fuels that have been stored for millions of years cant change the atmosphere, where do you suppose the CO2 atmospheric increase originates.
Same place as always before- nature


The ocean is a huge store of CO2. When temps increase, CO2 will increase. What happens when you heat up a bottle of Coke? In contrast to the heartfelt beliefs of the AGW cult, CO2 follows temps, rather than the other way around.


The buffering capacity of the oceans and atmospheric saturation is far below its full capacity.


Temps are altered by solar activity, volcanic activity, the orbit of the earth, and changes in the earth's magnetic fields.


It is very puzzling indeed how liberals ignore that huge gas ball in the sky and blame CO2. We have two adjacent planets, one cold, one warm, with CO2 concentrations 1,000X that or earth. Obviously, CO2 is not the primary determinant of planetary temperatures.
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Old Today, 11:11 AM
 
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And all of these "suggestions" imply further expansion and empowerment of the environmental bureaurcracy so admired and praised by "global warming" zealots; we (or at least, the youngest, most impressionable, and least understanding of open-market economics) are being duped!
It's worth it

Not a fan of one large Government

In reality we need the Government to regulate us so we don't abuse the environment.

Hopefully may fine a gray area allowing States to alter policies. I mean too much regulations say with farming can have a negative impact. States may have a different approach.
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Old Today, 12:09 PM
 
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Just a normal 1500 year warming cycle.
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