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View Poll Results: Climate change caused by humans is a real phenomenon
True 71 58.20%
False 51 41.80%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Yesterday, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Since the start of the industrial Revolution weíve been pumping stuff into the atmosphere itís naive to think it hasnít taken it toll on the planet.
Of course it has an effect on the planet.

But that is science, and the alt-right does not believe in science. They apparently do not believe in cause and effect either. It is all about religious fatalism. Odd, because it used to be third world countries that were governed by fatalism.

Now it a pervasive belief on the right. The human race has no control over the planet--we are all just passively batted around by the universe.
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Old Yesterday, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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of course!

but look into the future. If we make all these GND steps, then in 20 years it may cost us $100 to make the life-changing widget that China makes for $10. You think enough of the other countries in the world are going to buy our $100 widget vs their $10 one?
I am talking about sensible moves, such as more renewable energy.

Renewable energy is now cheaper than energy produced by fossil fuels, and most countries are moving awa from fossil fuels.

In the end it could actually make products cheaper, and increased automation may also have an impact on product prices.
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Old Yesterday, 02:39 PM
 
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Poll is flawed. Should have been an option for study based on the scientific method.



To date. There has not been one.
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Old Yesterday, 02:42 PM
 
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how many of the ~ 3 BILLION families have heat and AC? How many have any permanent electricity and water/waste disposal? I think you'd be shocked, and even if they ALL did, then you're using 1,000 AC's and heaters PER household.
...leave it to someone to take it literally
.keep in mind...all of global warming is less than 1 degree....it's impossible for anyone to feel that
...and no one can qualify how much heat we have added...that has nothing to do with CO2

Just for fun...here's all the paved roads in North America..pavement and buildings add heat too....and land use change

roads > https://i.redd.it/fziffv2qjnhz.jpg
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Old Yesterday, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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I am talking about sensible moves, such as more renewable energy.

Renewable energy is now cheaper than energy produced by fossil fuels, and most countries are moving awa from fossil fuels.

In the end it could actually make products cheaper, and increased automation may also have an impact on product prices.
And what sources of energy are actually cheaper?

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Old Yesterday, 02:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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Whether it's man made ir not, we still should be cleaning up our act and taking better care of the planet, and this especially applies to the Chinese, as too much emphasis is being placed on the US and not enough on China and other big potential polluters such as India.
Absolutely! All of the most polluted cities in the world are in China, India and elsewhere. We are not even a blip on the screen when it comes to plastic being dumped in the ocean. American Leftist love to relish in saying the US is the root of evil in the world. That's what our Leftist educational system puts into your child's brain

Most polluted cities in the world
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the...-world-ranked/


Largest contributor to Plastics in the oceans
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the...-world-ranked/

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Old Yesterday, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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If Man is affecting climate, what percentage is man made, and what percentage is Naturally occurring? What will the taxes on fossil fuels, carbon, and other items do to curtail the man made portion of climate change if there is one? If the Naturally Occurring Climate change increases as it has always done, will that negate anything man does to combat it?
Who knows what portion is caused by us and what portion by nature? Maybe scientists, who study this stuff do know, but I doubt any of us on here are that.

The point is, we can not control the natural influences, but we CAN control what we humans contribute. To deny 100% that we humans do not contribute is simply blind reasoning.
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I could post 1,000 links stating that global warming is real, would that change your mind?
Do any of them prove it?

Truth doesn't come as a result of a 51% vote.
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Old Yesterday, 03:06 PM
 
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Who knows what portion is caused by us and what portion by nature?
...no one, not even climate scientists...if they did, they would qualify it


And out of that, they don't know how much is caused by land use change, every machine we use makes heat, roads, cities, etc

What if 90% of global warming was caused by things other than CO2?

These are the same guys, that just a few years ago, were talking about painting all the roofs white, painting roads white...cause it would make a big difference
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Old Yesterday, 03:09 PM
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Terrible poll.

I believe humans have a very slight impact on the global environment. VERY slight. It's mostly natural forces at work.

Mankind affects his environment locally, not globally. This planet has withstood far, far more destructive events than mankind and will be here blue and full of life LONG after mankind is gone.
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