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Old 08-04-2019, 08:16 AM
 
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There, I said it.

In their defense, they had no idea what that amendment would result in some 200+ years later, no way to know the kind of advanced weaponry that would be invented and fall into hands they don't belong in, no way of knowing how Americans would misuse and abuse the amendment in ways they never intended.

But here we are.

It's time to consider amending the Constitution again.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:20 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Yeah you are wrong and they were right.
That's why we don't need to change the constitution on this issue.

My guns kill no one and I obey all laws.

Violent video games that dehumanize people are more of a problem. Ban them.
Even FBI Profilers will verify that stat.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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So, you're basically saying you have no idea why they wrote the 2nd.

It wasn't about hunting. They wrote the 2nd specifically for allowing citizens to resist government aggression.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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There, I said it.

In their defense, they had no idea what that amendment would result in some 200+ years later, no way to know the kind of advanced weaponry that would be invented and fall into hands they don't belong in, no way of knowing how Americans would misuse and abuse the amendment in ways they never intended.

But here we are.

It's time to consider amending the Constitution again.
Anybody else not surprised?
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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So, you're basically saying you have no idea why they wrote the 2nd.

It wasn't about hunting. They wrote the 2nd specifically for allowing citizens to resist government aggression.

Far more to the point, especially these days, is resistance to criminal actions. Even back in the 1700's this was more than important. Not so much government aggression but governments lack of ability to keep us protected. Yes, even now with LE as it is that is not possible. As cliché as it has become, "When seconds count the police are only minutes away."
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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There, I said it.

In their defense, they had no idea what that amendment would result in some 200+ years later, no way to know the kind of advanced weaponry that would be invented and fall into hands they don't belong in, no way of knowing how Americans would misuse and abuse the amendment in ways they never intended.

But here we are.

It's time to consider amending the Constitution again.
180 degrees wrong


The founding fathers would be surprised at all the weapons restrictions. The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to put citizens on par with the military in weaponry. Thus, citizens would be able to overthrow an oppressive government that no longer represented the people.


The 2nd Amendment is the ultimate "checks and balances" if peaceful options fail.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So, you're basically saying you have no idea why they wrote the 2nd.

It wasn't about hunting. They wrote the 2nd specifically for allowing citizens to resist government aggression.
Some people just don't get it.

They also seem to not understand private citizens are also the ones that own all the private defense companies, where they design and built weapons to sell to the military. And, the only thing keeping these types of companies in check from deciding to create a weapon that they can use to control the people is the fact that they don't know what arms and weapons those people might have to fight back. '

They don't seem to stop and realize that without the second amendment, corrupt police and federal agents will be the only ones with weapons, and we seen what they can do to a small neighborhood with their ties in the organized criminal world.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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There, I said it.

In their defense, they had no idea what that amendment would result in some 200+ years later, no way to know the kind of advanced weaponry that would be invented and fall into hands they don't belong in, no way of knowing how Americans would misuse and abuse the amendment in ways they never intended.

But here we are.

It's time to consider amending the Constitution again.
Every country should have a well armed militia, in the form of a national guard or reserve forces to defend the country and I think this was the founding fathers intention, so they weren't wrong. The Territorial Army‎, now known as the Army Reserve does a fantastic job of defending the UK, as indeed did the Home Guard during WW2 and other couyntries have similar reserve forces and militias.

What is wrong is using this to defend all weapon ownership,

I am all for sensible people enjoying target shooting or engaging in sport, or even the right to defend your home but you can do this without letting nutcases get a hold of rapid centre fire type weapons and causing massacre after massacre.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Far more to the point, especially these days, is resistance to criminal actions. Even back in the 1700's this was more than important. Not so much government aggression but governments lack of ability to keep us protected. Yes, even now with LE as it is that is not possible. As cliché as it has become, "When seconds count the police are only minutes away."
It may have been a factor, but the 2nd was written as a way for people to be secure from government aggression.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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