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Old 08-04-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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I'm not normally a negative person, but I truly don't think this issue will ever get solved in my lifetime.

It somehow requires figuring out how to identify potential mass shooters before they are able to commit the shooting and stop them.

 
Old 08-04-2019, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Well, the answer to gun violence isn't one single thing. It's probably many things that need to be done.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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https://www.vox.com/2018/11/13/17658...-laws-licenses

Does this seem unreasonable to you?
Letís do the same for all the rights listed in the Bill of Rights.

Voting would be my No. 1. Think about how dangerous voting can be. If someone vote in Hitler or god forbid another Trump, that would be the end of the world.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 09:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's believed that the Las Vegas mass shooting involved the use of a fully automatic weapon as one of the weapons or that the killer might have converted a semi to an automatic with a bunch of changes. But I don't know if that's been confirmed officially.
At the time of the shooting a "bump stock" wasn't classified as a auto weapon, so no.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 09:22 PM
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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And I say this as a person who is of color, a 1st generation American. Yes I'm sympatric to white males, but I'm sympatric to all people in this country.
Are white people not of color? I cringe at the POC label as it creates an "us vs. them" situation. I am not saying that this is your intent (and you seem like a decent person, truly), but that's what I think of when I hear/read the term.
 
Old 08-04-2019, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Letís do the same for all the rights listed in the Bill of Rights.

Voting would be my No. 1. Think about how dangerous voting can be. If someone vote in Hitler or god forbid another Trump, that would be the end of the world.
Trump is 'literally' Hitler or worse, the liberal calmly explained
 
Old 08-04-2019, 10:23 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Nobody can do anything to stop a crazy person from acting out if they are set on it, it's a fact that people need to come to grips with.
Agree...background checks would have found nothing on most mass shooters. Then you have the ones that obtained guns illegally, like lanza, columbine, dayton.

The dayton shooter was a dem/socialist bernie/warren supporter by the way...
And over 50 percent of mass murders (3 or more killed), are other than white men. Look it up.
For those blaming trump, get real. We had mass murder long before trump took office. It skyrocketed about the time internet became popular (so incel basement dwellers can find others with similar thoughts and prod each other to action), single parent homes skyrocketed, violent video games became common, God was taken out of schools and homes, and kids were raised to believe they were important and entitled and don't know how to deal with failure and rejection.

In 1978 over 50 percent of households owned a gun. In 2018 only 31 percent of households do.

Re assault weapons...there was a 10 yr ban from 1994-2004. Studies later on showed no affect on the homicide rates. And it was not renewed.

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Old 08-04-2019, 10:29 PM
 
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Why do other first world countries not have this mass shooting problem?
 
Old 08-04-2019, 11:25 PM
 
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Why do other first world countries not have this mass shooting problem?
That is complicated, but one of the reasons is, the US govt is the only one desiring to be MORE tyrannical today, the growing police state is another reason.


If you look around at the different world Govts right now, there arent any that are in the same position as the US govt!
 
Old 08-05-2019, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Agree...background checks would have found nothing on most mass shooters. Then you have the ones that obtained guns illegally, like lanza, columbine, dayton.

The dayton shooter was a dem/socialist bernie/warren supporter by the way...
And over 50 percent of mass murders (3 or more killed), are other than white men. Look it up.
For those blaming trump, get real. We had mass murder long before trump took office. It skyrocketed about the time internet became popular (so incel basement dwellers can find others with similar thoughts and prod each other to action), single parent homes skyrocketed, violent video games became common, God was taken out of schools and homes, and kids were raised to believe they were important and entitled and don't know how to deal with failure and rejection.

In 1978 over 50 percent of households owned a gun. In 2018 only 31 percent of households do.

Re assault weapons...there was a 10 yr ban from 1994-2004. Studies later on showed no affect on the homicide rates. And it was not renewed.
I don't care about political leanings unless the crime itself was political along the lines of their side. The fact remains that we have a mental health problem in this country that Congress doesn't want to fix and the President fails to do much with. Part of this includes how easily it is that guns are allowed to be accessed LEGALLY. Illegal gun access is a different story, but why on God's green Earth must we not make it harder for mental health patients to own guns?

I don't believe talking God out of school did much to cause gun violence to spike. It is one of many things to happen. Video games has been cited too and there are a lot of people that are normal who play them. I don't think being told they were an individual snowflake and coddled was a reason too in it of itself. What I think are the issue is lack of parenting (not only single parents but sibling parents who try to be a child's friend more so than a parent) and mental health issues. We can't control the parents but we can control mental health, we have chosen not to. So I dismissed all but one of your reasons for why these shootings are more common now.

As for assault weapons, Columbine happened with two shotguns, one carbine rifle and a semi-automatic pistol, along with a ton of explosives. Now imagine if the rifle was an AR-15 with a bump stock or a rubber band acting similarly and they were able to spray bullets. That is what we largely see today. Columbine is a high body count for only a semi automatic pistol and the rest being mostly legal (the shotvuns were sawed off) civilian guns. The other school shootings around this time didn't greatly have as many casualties. It wasn't until after the Brady Bill ended that we saw the modern day weapon of war shootings. So blaming the law is wrong.
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