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Old 08-07-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Motive. El Paso shooter trumpeted Trump's tantrums.

Not gang related. White nationalist motivated.
"El Paso shooter trumpeted Trump's tantrums."


It is noted not a single anti gun nut has mentioned Canton Ohio shooting"


"A Twitter account appearing to be from the gunman who killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio, showed tweets labeling himself a “leftist,” bemoaning the election of President Donald Trump, supporting Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren and encouraging people to cut fences of immigrant detention centers.


https://www.apnews.com/bdcdc166ee814e069edda52bee6c460e

 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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"El Paso shooter trumpeted Trump's tantrums."


It is noted not a single anti gun nut has mentioned Canton Ohio shooting"


"A Twitter account appearing to be from the gunman who killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio, showed tweets labeling himself a “leftist,” bemoaning the election of President Donald Trump, supporting Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren and encouraging people to cut fences of immigrant detention centers.


https://www.apnews.com/bdcdc166ee814e069edda52bee6c460e
The guy who killed his sister and 8 other people was a leftist creep with a totally warped mind. He was beyond help and is in a much better place now that he's dead. His father should have drowned him in the toilet when he was born.

There, I'm a leftist...……...do you feel better now?

Does it change anything about El Paso?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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You have a valid point there. If you look at other countries you will see that these mass shootings are not part of their society, yet, epidemic here. Why do you think that is? Crazy people exist in every city around the globe, yet, there is no mass shootings. Could it be because there is strict common sense gun legislation/regulation? My guess is yes. Research Australia's laws, and what New Zealand did after their mass shooting. It goes beyond empty thoughts and prayers.
"yet, epidemic here"

"From 2009 to 2017, there were at least 173 mass shootings in the U.S."

I don't think 173 in 8 year is an "epidemic" considering the MILLIONS of people who own guns.

If you want to compare countries, you need to look at their laws, judicial systems and their punishment, etc. for even minor crimes.

NO 2nd amendment, warrants NOT required to search private property, No lawyer REQUIRED before questioning, Assume GUILTY until proven innocent, etc.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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Simple. Get rid of your guns. They serve no real purpose except for increasing the existential threat to all. The timelines for Dayton and Gilroy illustrate this perfectly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...ith-a-gun-myth

If you can’t acknowledge that these cases bust a huge hole in the good guy with a gun myth then you are probably addicted to your guns and arguing with you is the same as arguing with a drug addict.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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Really? I don't want anyone who beats a spouse to have access to a gun. Ever. I'm a gun owner, and have taught firearm safety. That type of person is exactly what a Red Flag law should include.
"Really? I don't want anyone who beats a spouse to have access to a gun."


Nice of you to ACCUSE EVER spouse beater as a murderer.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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Aside from the incorrect nomenclature, blue states like NY and CT tried the voluntary gun relinquishment route and only had a 4% or less compliance rate. In blue states. Even Dems won't give up their guns. Ponder that...
It was registration not relinquishment. Certain arbitrarily classified firearms and magazines with capacity in excess of 10 rounds were to be registered.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Ive tried to explain this so many times, I dont understand why people cannot seem to grasp this?!


Heroin is 100% illegal to possess, buy or sell...and yet our state has a major heroin epidemic going on!!
Cities like Chicago have some of the TOUGHEST gun laws in the country yet .....!


"So Many People Were Shot In Chicago This Weekend, A Hospital Had To Briefly Stop Taking Patients"

"Dozens of people were shot over the weekend in Chicago, leaving seven people dead and 46 wounded since Friday evening, CBS Chicago reported, and the city experienced two mass shootings within a four-hour span early Sunday morning. The violence in Chicago came after another mass shooting in Brooklyn the week before"
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...el-paso-dayton
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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It was registration not relinquishment. Certain arbitrarily classified firearms and magazines with capacity in excess of 10 rounds were to be registered.
Less than 4% compliance rate. In blue states. Ponder that...
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Cities like Chicago have some of the TOUGHEST gun laws in the country yet .....!

The gun laws aren't that tough at all. That's part of the problem. Chicago is very soft on criminals with gun related charges. Also, almost anyone can get a conceal and carry permit. So, there's that.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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Less than 4% compliance rate. In blue states. Ponder that...
As I live in CT I'm well aware of what the compliance rate was along with the changes in our State's laws which were poorly communicated at the time.
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