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Old 08-07-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The South
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Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
I'm at a loss here.
I pledge to not go out and commit mass murder.

 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
I'm at a loss here.
As you can see, much of your brethren arent willing to look for solutions that inconvenience them, for the good of the nation.
Wouldnt surprise me if they represent much of the mentality of the country, only twisting the 2A in order to keep it easy for them to get their killing pistols.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"turn in assault guns" can't turn in something that does NOT EXIST!

Just because ignorant people CLAIM a certain gun is an "assault weapon", does NOT make it so.

Every state that has done so, uses cosmetics to describe them which has NOTHING to do with the capabilities of the gun itself.


"We are in a war zone and we may be losing battles and the war." So in your mind the private citizen should have a LESS effective gun then the one your are fighting!
Would you feel better if it was high capacity magazines and stripper clips that were made illegal?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
Very few in New Zealand turned in their guns, same in Australia. There is a huge black market in Australia for semi-auto rifles right now.
Notice Australia hasn't had any mass shootings lately?
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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"Really? I don't want anyone who beats a spouse to have access to a gun."


Nice of you to ACCUSE EVER spouse beater as a murderer.
I don't want a spouse beater to have access to an instrument that with a simple trigger pull kills someone. I want spouse beaters in jail. Every. Single. Time.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Robert_J View Post
So it's OK to leave a battered spouse to be beaten but not shot? Why not remove a violent person from society?
You missed the point, and I suspect purposely. Not wanting a spouse beater have access to a firearm has nothing to do with me not wanting that person incarcerated. It means I don't want that person to have access to a firearm...ever, even after they have "paid their debt to society". No. Gun. Ever.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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Unfortunately, I think the ultimate solution here is to implement a federal firearm licensing program similar to what many states have in place now.


Here's why I don't think this would fly.

#1, it interferes with a state's rights to set their own laws when it comes to topics like this. While everyone points the finger at Trump and congress to do something, the change really should come at the state level, and it really needs to be sweeping change such as licensing and restrictions. Why don't the states do it then? See #2

#2, under such a federal program (or a new state program), a good chunk of people who currently own firearms probably won't be qualified to own them due to some of the disqualifiers many states have in place with their licensing programs. Very minor crimes and even traffic misdemeanors are disqualifiers in some states. As a result, the program would disqualify millions of owners and require confiscation of their firearms. Who is going to put that plan in action? What sort of waves will that generate? Who's going door to door to collect them then? Because such a change will require this action.


Needless to say, this is why nothing gets done.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by BostonMike7 View Post
Unfortunately, I think the ultimate solution here is to implement a federal firearm licensing program similar to what many states have in place now.


Here's why I don't think this would fly.

#1, it interferes with a state's rights to set their own laws when it comes to topics like this. While everyone points the finger at Trump and congress to do something, the change really should come at the state level, and it really needs to be sweeping change such as licensing and restrictions. Why don't the states do it then? See #2

#2, under such a federal program (or a new state program), a good chunk of people who currently own firearms probably won't be qualified to own them due to some of the disqualifiers many states have in place with their licensing programs. Very minor crimes and even traffic misdemeanors are disqualifiers in some states. As a result, the program would disqualify millions of owners and require confiscation of their firearms. Who is going to put that plan in action? What sort of waves will that generate? Who's going door to door to collect them then? Because such a change will require this action.


Needless to say, this is why nothing gets done.
Feds and most states won't do it. There's an old saying, "Nobody want's to take responsibility to shoot the family pet because it bit the baby."
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by odinloki1 View Post
Simple. Get rid of your guns. They serve no real purpose except for increasing the existential threat to all. The timelines for Dayton and Gilroy illustrate this perfectly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...ith-a-gun-myth

If you can’t acknowledge that these cases bust a huge hole in the good guy with a gun myth then you are probably addicted to your guns and arguing with you is the same as arguing with a drug addict.
Millions of people simple have a gun for hunting. I am addicted to hunting.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
Notice Australia hasn't had any mass shootings lately?
The State of Australia has committed "mass shootings" lately.

I know, brown babies in Afghanistan don't count.
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