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Old Yesterday, 11:07 AM
 
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Again, should the media report every fatality in a war zone--which is virtually what some of these neighborhoods are--and make it on par with every mass shooting of ordinary Americans who are not gang members? You continue to insist they are one in the same.

They are not. If I choose to walk through a gang infested neighborhood, I am knowingly putting my life at risk. If I take my kids to Walmart to do back to school shopping, I am not. Or I shouldn't be, though these days that's not true anymore either.

But hey, keep pretending they are exactly the same thing.

And keep pretending you have no agenda here.

No one buys it.
Not everyone gets not to choose to walk through a gang infested neighborhood as they live there.
Not sure why this has become us versus them regarding shooting. Both sides of the coin, white kid shooting up public space and gang bangers hitting innocent victims result in the tragic loss of life. Both need to be addressed. Period.
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Old Yesterday, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Gang shootings in gang-infested neighborhoods are not the same as mass slaughter of non-gang members in non-gang infested neighborhoods just going about their lives.

Are you also surprised that people die regularly in war zones? Because that's essentially what some of these areas are.

But you know that already.

Agenda much?
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That's not a mass shooting. It's gang violence. It's actually not a lot of shootings for a summer night.
I agree. While I have no answers on how to solve either type of incident, it's hard to even begin to have a reasonable conversation when both sides want to lump them together. It's okay to recognize them as very separate, with different causes and results, but by the same token, the "other side" needs to stop talking about the 250 mass shootings we've had so far this year. Separate them, or you don't get to disagree with the OP.
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Old Yesterday, 11:20 AM
 
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Uncomfortable Truth: Most Mass Shootings are Done by Blacks... Most Victims are Blacks
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Old Yesterday, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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And angry young black men are murdering exponentially more people all over this nation compared to "white nationalists" based on the statistics. So what is your point?
Exactly.
But then again, as I always point out, statistics & numbers are not the strong point of the left.
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Old Yesterday, 07:06 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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how about blame the shooters?
Yes and their motivation, whether (likely) prompted by the current president or not. There are those who are encouraged to be hateful and react as they have been inspired to. There exists too much mental illness, with many not being raised well, not properly guided or cared for. Some are shown guns when children and how to shoot, given access to...coupled with being raised to be divisive, hateful...confused.. then later having been encouraged by a leader to act upon impulse against others (the so-called "enemy").

I realize that some people may be responsible gun owners, those who would not allow gun access to others, etc., knowing the seriousness of such. But there has been otherwise too much access to and too much romanticizing of gun usage, being depicted as a "usual part of life", besides having had the encouragement and fantasy of shooting others, in Video Games.

A lot needs to change.
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Old Today, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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That's not a mass shooting. It's gang violence. It's actually not a lot of shootings for a summer night.
What??

Are we allowed to remove rep points?
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Old Today, 06:50 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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It's only a mass shooting when it's a bunch of whites.
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Old Today, 06:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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What's the point of this thread? I think it's obvious to most people that we have two separate problems:

1. Inner city gang/drug gun violence

2. White nationalist Terrorists

The causes and solutions to each are very different.
Only an idiot ties mass shootings to one thing. You can google the results yourself but if you need help googling?
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Old Today, 06:56 AM
 
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It's 'only' gang violence in Chicago.

People don't care, except for those living in those areas. Let them shoot and kill each other.

Once violence starts hitting suburbs and 'good' areas and safe zones, now we have a problem.
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Old Today, 07:01 AM
 
Location: USA
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All of these thugs shooting each other in Black on Black inner city violence are already FELONS and prohibited from even touching a firearm. Yet, somehow they get them and commit more violent crime, and murder with them. Criminals and crazies don't follow the existing 22,000 gun laws on the books, nor the laws against murder. They won't follow new ones.
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